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By: DBMS2 — DataBase Management System Services » Blog Archive » Mike Stonebraker on financial stream processing

Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:06:32 +0000

[...] my call with Truviso and blog post referencing same, I had the chance to discuss stream processing with Mike Stonebraker, who among [...]

By: Curt Monash

Curt Monash — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 05:35:18 +0000

OK. Is everybody happy now with the claims about relative market revenue rank?

CAM

By: Bill Hobbib

Bill Hobbib — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:12:07 +0000

We are pleased to see so much interest in StreamBase once again and appreciate the
visibility from several of our competitors. I would like to clarify a few points
for those posting who seem to be confused. Regarding performance and statements
about our leadership, in every performance-based vendor ‘bakeoff’ performed by
customers over the past several years, StreamBase has never lost to a competitor.
Never. If those posting to this blog perhaps are unaware of those situations,
I would be glad to detail them for you privately. The customers have told us our
throughput was orders of magnitude faster than the competitors with lower latency,
so we are indeed the leader in the segment of CEP which is considered
“high performance CEP”, as we have stated publicly. As we have stated in industry
forums, we would be glad to work with an independent third party on a
performance-based benchmark test so there is a basis for comparing the performance
of all of the vendors, but this idea has not gotten traction to date.

In terms of revenue, as we have said in the past, we are a privately-held company,
and as such, we do not publicly disclose our revenues. Therefore, any estimates of
our revenues on the part of competitors or others are conjecture. The revenues
of the CEP product lines of larger companies have also not been disclosed publicly.
In the field of pure-play software companies whose only product line is event
processing software, based on our best estimates of contracts won and revenues,
StreamBase is indeed probably the largest pure-play in the business.

I hope this helps clarify any confusion on the part of our competitors.

By: Curt Monash

Curt Monash — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:40:47 +0000

I WOULD be interested in seeing what definitions they use when they make those claims …

Best,

CAM

By: Tim Bass

Tim Bass — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:44:07 +0000

Hi Curt,

StreamBase is an interesting company in the CEP/ESP space; however, SteamBase typically inflates their market position in public statements. SteamBase markets CEP and ESP with terms like “the largest” and “the leading” – but the true fact of the matter is that the StreamBase market share is significantly far behind market leaders Progress Apama and TIBCO.

Yours faithfully, Tim

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Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:08:39 +0000

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By: Curt Monash

Curt Monash — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:22:01 +0000

Hi Mark!

If I understood them correctly, StreamBase seems to think that those figures are quite inaccurate and/or obsolete.

But I’ll let them defend such claims here themselves, reveal revenue/size metrics, etc., if they choose.

Best,

CAM

By: Mark Palmer

Mark Palmer — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:29:59 +0000

Hi Curt – One point of clarification – StreamBase, indeed is one of the startups in the complex event processing (CEP) space. However, analysts who have quantitatively tracked the market and vendors consistently rank them to be the 4th or 5th largest vendor in terms of customers and revenue, not the largest. I realize you said “possibly” the largest vendor, and it is true that the market is small (less than about $70M) and challenging to measure. That said, most estimates (AITE, IDC, Bloor) are that Progress Apama and TIBCO Business Events the largest commercial vendors by a factor or 3-5X, followed by a group of KX Systems, Coral8, Aleri Labs, and StreamBase – potentially in that order. KX is a bit of an odd duck, since it’s more of a database than pure CEP vendor, but they do lay claim to doing CEP.

Hope this helps,

- Mark Palmer, General Manager, Progress Apama