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	<title>Comments on: Kickfire is de-cloaking</title>
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	<description>Choices in data management and analysis</description>
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		<title>By: Keith Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-82982</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we have been talking to Kickfire for quite some time (I have been talking to them since November or December) we were not getting paid.  Consulting was probably a bad choice of words on Frank's part as it does have implications of pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we have been talking to Kickfire for quite some time (I have been talking to them since November or December) we were not getting paid.  Consulting was probably a bad choice of words on Frank&#8217;s part as it does have implications of pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Kickfire and Xtremedata, a common theme? &#171; Technophilia</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-81745</link>
		<dc:creator>Kickfire and Xtremedata, a common theme? &#171; Technophilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Monash has some more information about Kickfire in his post &#8220;Kickfire is de-cloaking&#8220;. He [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Monash has some more information about Kickfire in his post &#8220;Kickfire is de-cloaking&#8220;. He [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-81284</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Keith, it says in http://mysqldatabaseadministration.blogspot.com/2008/04/kickfire-looking-to-push-mysql-limits.html that you were consulting to the company for months.

Why did you only choose to correct the error over here?

Or is "consulting" something one does for free in the MySQL community?

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Keith, it says in <a href="http://mysqldatabaseadministration.blogspot.com/2008/04/kickfire-looking-to-push-mysql-limits.html" rel="nofollow">http://mysqldatabaseadministration.blogspot.com/2008/04/kickfire-looking-to-push-mysql-limits.html</a> that you were consulting to the company for months.</p>
<p>Why did you only choose to correct the error over here?</p>
<p>Or is &#8220;consulting&#8221; something one does for free in the MySQL community?</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-81225</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

Thanks for the clarifications.

I took "involved with" under NDA to mean "paid by".  My error.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarifications.</p>
<p>I took &#8220;involved with&#8221; under NDA to mean &#8220;paid by&#8221;.  My error.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond Notes &#187; Off to the Conference Tomorrow</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-81204</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond Notes &#187; Off to the Conference Tomorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] next trip tomorrow morning.  I will be heading to Santa Clara/San Jose for a meeting (you know .. put on by the company some people thinks are paying me ) with Kickfire to take a long look at the MySQL data warehousing product they are bringing to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] next trip tomorrow morning.  I will be heading to Santa Clara/San Jose for a meeting (you know .. put on by the company some people thinks are paying me ) with Kickfire to take a long look at the MySQL data warehousing product they are bringing to [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/08/kickfire-is-de-cloaking/#comment-81190</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me be perfectly clear.  In no way do I get paid by Kickfire.  Not one bit. Not for a blog posting on Diamond Notes, not for anything. 

In addition to my blog I happen to be the editor of MySQL Magazine (http://www.mysqlzine.net).  Because of this I have to be very careful about anything I say in print.  Funny thing, people remember what you say.  It also would not look very good at all if I got paid by a company to write an article about a product.  People would very quickly not believe anything I write.  In addition to the aforementioned blog posting (and some others I have yet to write) I have a full-length article for the magazine written.  So just to be clear...I didn't get paid to write any of it.  I am not getting paid by Kickfire for consulting, reviewing whatever.  

Yes, I have been very positive about their product.  I have also spent a long time talking to their upper-level people assessing what they are doing. Yes, it is still a product in testing. I think that has been very clearly stated in anything I or the other evaluators have written.

Tomorrow I will be looking at the product and working with it hands-on.  Actually there will be a group of us there.  You know, all the ones on the Kickfire payroll.  

I am sure we will be all reporting what we see.  And I guarantee you without a doubt that  we will give our opinions about it when we get done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me be perfectly clear.  In no way do I get paid by Kickfire.  Not one bit. Not for a blog posting on Diamond Notes, not for anything. </p>
<p>In addition to my blog I happen to be the editor of MySQL Magazine (http://www.mysqlzine.net).  Because of this I have to be very careful about anything I say in print.  Funny thing, people remember what you say.  It also would not look very good at all if I got paid by a company to write an article about a product.  People would very quickly not believe anything I write.  In addition to the aforementioned blog posting (and some others I have yet to write) I have a full-length article for the magazine written.  So just to be clear&#8230;I didn&#8217;t get paid to write any of it.  I am not getting paid by Kickfire for consulting, reviewing whatever.  </p>
<p>Yes, I have been very positive about their product.  I have also spent a long time talking to their upper-level people assessing what they are doing. Yes, it is still a product in testing. I think that has been very clearly stated in anything I or the other evaluators have written.</p>
<p>Tomorrow I will be looking at the product and working with it hands-on.  Actually there will be a group of us there.  You know, all the ones on the Kickfire payroll.  </p>
<p>I am sure we will be all reporting what we see.  And I guarantee you without a doubt that  we will give our opinions about it when we get done.</p>
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