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	<title>Comments on: Netezza pricing</title>
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	<description>Choices in data management and analysis</description>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-86948</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm confident Stuart would rush to appear at any joint DATAllegro/Netezza/Teradata event I tried to set up.

I'm pretty sure, however, that Netezza and Teradata would NOT opt to join us ...

:)

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confident Stuart would rush to appear at any joint DATAllegro/Netezza/Teradata event I tried to set up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure, however, that Netezza and Teradata would NOT opt to join us &#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: DW_Follower</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-86934</link>
		<dc:creator>DW_Follower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For clarification, the TD 2500 is 24 racks or 48 nodes -- not 24 nodes.  Total user space capacity is just shy of 150TB.  

As mentioned, the TD 550 is an SMP, one-node system that can never be expanded with BYNET (doesn't have it).  It's meant more for test/dev or someone just starting out with datawarehousing.  Not a long-term solution if you're looking to expand, but a cheaper price-point.

Stuart,

With all the price and performance FUD I've seen in your posts here and elsewhere, we need Bobby Flay to get DATAllegro, Teradata and Netezza in for a good old-fashioned throwdown to see who's the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For clarification, the TD 2500 is 24 racks or 48 nodes &#8212; not 24 nodes.  Total user space capacity is just shy of 150TB.  </p>
<p>As mentioned, the TD 550 is an SMP, one-node system that can never be expanded with BYNET (doesn&#8217;t have it).  It&#8217;s meant more for test/dev or someone just starting out with datawarehousing.  Not a long-term solution if you&#8217;re looking to expand, but a cheaper price-point.</p>
<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>With all the price and performance FUD I&#8217;ve seen in your posts here and elsewhere, we need Bobby Flay to get DATAllegro, Teradata and Netezza in for a good old-fashioned throwdown to see who&#8217;s the best.</p>
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		<title>By: DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ParAccel pricing</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-85975</link>
		<dc:creator>DBMS2 &#8212; DataBase Management System Services &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ParAccel pricing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 19:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pricing, and am posting the results as I get them. Earlier installments featured Teradata and Netezza. Now ParAccel is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pricing, and am posting the results as I get them. Earlier installments featured Teradata and Netezza. Now ParAccel is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82650</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, 

As per the above, a competent Netezza exec says his system sells for a lot less than the list price you're attributing to them.

Is the same true of DATAllegro systems? :)

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, </p>
<p>As per the above, a competent Netezza exec says his system sells for a lot less than the list price you&#8217;re attributing to them.</p>
<p>Is the same true of DATAllegro systems? <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82649</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NG,

Agreed.  The 550 product is not to be taken seriously for most purposes, even if the reporter for one major trade pub got confused by it.  

But hey -- as long as anybody wants it, Teradata was quite right to productize it.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NG,</p>
<p>Agreed.  The 550 product is not to be taken seriously for most purposes, even if the reporter for one major trade pub got confused by it.  </p>
<p>But hey &#8212; as long as anybody wants it, Teradata was quite right to productize it.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82643</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt,

Netezza's list pricing is around $100k per TB, so Teradata is a bit more expensive at $125k.

Both are significantly more expensive than DATAllegro. Our list prices range from around $8k to $50k per TB, depending on the product range.

Stuart Frost
CEO, DATAllegro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p>
<p>Netezza&#8217;s list pricing is around $100k per TB, so Teradata is a bit more expensive at $125k.</p>
<p>Both are significantly more expensive than DATAllegro. Our list prices range from around $8k to $50k per TB, depending on the product range.</p>
<p>Stuart Frost<br />
CEO, DATAllegro</p>
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		<title>By: NG</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82625</link>
		<dc:creator>NG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt,

It is also important to note that the 550 model is an SMP server so it is not a high-performance system like other TD models - it is more like Oracle on Sun/HP/IBM in that regard.
As far as I recall all Netezza models are MPP servers including its low-end offering.

NG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p>
<p>It is also important to note that the 550 model is an SMP server so it is not a high-performance system like other TD models - it is more like Oracle on Sun/HP/IBM in that regard.<br />
As far as I recall all Netezza models are MPP servers including its low-end offering.</p>
<p>NG</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82551</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>146 TB is the max.

That's 24 nodes.

Most discussion of the Teradata 2500 -- including in the press release -- starts from the single-node version.

And Randy Lea of Teradata told me last week the 550 tops out at 2-3 TB.

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>146 TB is the max.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s 24 nodes.</p>
<p>Most discussion of the Teradata 2500 &#8212; including in the press release &#8212; starts from the single-node version.</p>
<p>And Randy Lea of Teradata told me last week the 550 tops out at 2-3 TB.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Cogdill</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/04/21/netezza-pricing/#comment-82521</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Cogdill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may have misread the press release...the TD 550 is 6 tb for $67k per tb.  
The 2500 is 146 tb at 125k per tb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have misread the press release&#8230;the TD 550 is 6 tb for $67k per tb.<br />
The 2500 is 146 tb at 125k per tb.</p>
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