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		<title>By: andar909</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/07/25/further-thoughts-on-datallegromicrosoft/#comment-93608</link>
		<dc:creator>andar909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, andar here, i just read your post.  i like very much.  agree to you, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, andar here, i just read your post.  i like very much.  agree to you, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/07/25/further-thoughts-on-datallegromicrosoft/#comment-92042</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

I think the two issues of:

1.  What&#039;s the best/most successful enterprise software suite we can build?

2.  How do we get the most high-margin services revenue out of our enterprise software business?

are more orthogonal than you were suggesting.

Microsoft still needs license fee growth, and a story for unlimited upside without their customers hitting a ceiling.  I&#039;d think DATAllegro was evaluated by those criteria.  Only the total price Microsoft is willing to pay would, I think, be strongly/directly affected by services revenue considerations.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I think the two issues of:</p>
<p>1.  What&#8217;s the best/most successful enterprise software suite we can build?</p>
<p>2.  How do we get the most high-margin services revenue out of our enterprise software business?</p>
<p>are more orthogonal than you were suggesting.</p>
<p>Microsoft still needs license fee growth, and a story for unlimited upside without their customers hitting a ceiling.  I&#8217;d think DATAllegro was evaluated by those criteria.  Only the total price Microsoft is willing to pay would, I think, be strongly/directly affected by services revenue considerations.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Culler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Culler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt - 

Do you have any thoughts on the idea that Microsoft is at least partially in this to bolster their services division, to compete head-on with IBM and Teradata in the Services arena?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt &#8211; </p>
<p>Do you have any thoughts on the idea that Microsoft is at least partially in this to bolster their services division, to compete head-on with IBM and Teradata in the Services arena?</p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re staying out on vacation another week &#124; The Monash Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re staying out on vacation another week &#124; The Monash Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to what I previously said, I did not come back to Acton this weekend.  Instead, Linda and I are staying on Grand Cayman for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to what I previously said, I did not come back to Acton this weekend.  Instead, Linda and I are staying on Grand Cayman for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Raden</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/07/25/further-thoughts-on-datallegromicrosoft/#comment-91825</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Raden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was about five years ago, or maybe only four, when Kim Stanick invited me to lunch to meet her new boss, Stuart Frost. I don&#039;t remember my exact words to Stuart, but it went something like, &quot;That&#039;s the dumbest idea I ever heard.&quot; You can&#039;t always pick &#039;em, that&#039;s what makes a horse race. 

I proceeded to wax poetic on the future of data warehousing and I could tell by the look on his face that HE thought THAT was the dumbest idea he ever heard. 

I guess the best part of the story is that we&#039;ve both been vindicated. Stuart by the sale to Microsoft and me because my crazy-ass ideas from that time are starting to get some traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was about five years ago, or maybe only four, when Kim Stanick invited me to lunch to meet her new boss, Stuart Frost. I don&#8217;t remember my exact words to Stuart, but it went something like, &#8220;That&#8217;s the dumbest idea I ever heard.&#8221; You can&#8217;t always pick &#8216;em, that&#8217;s what makes a horse race. </p>
<p>I proceeded to wax poetic on the future of data warehousing and I could tell by the look on his face that HE thought THAT was the dumbest idea he ever heard. </p>
<p>I guess the best part of the story is that we&#8217;ve both been vindicated. Stuart by the sale to Microsoft and me because my crazy-ass ideas from that time are starting to get some traction.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/07/25/further-thoughts-on-datallegromicrosoft/#comment-91796</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart,

You&#039;d better!

Meanwhile, Linda and I have extended our vacation another week.  I hope nobody else gets bought in the mean time ...

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart,</p>
<p>You&#8217;d better!</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Linda and I have extended our vacation another week.  I hope nobody else gets bought in the mean time &#8230;</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/07/25/further-thoughts-on-datallegromicrosoft/#comment-91725</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis as usual Curt. 

Sorry about the &#039;vacation&#039; - next time I announce a major acquisition, I&#039;ll check your schedule :)

Stuart Frost
CEO, DATAllegro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis as usual Curt. </p>
<p>Sorry about the &#8216;vacation&#8217; &#8211; next time I announce a major acquisition, I&#8217;ll check your schedule <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Stuart Frost<br />
CEO, DATAllegro</p>
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