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	<title>Comments on: Vertica&#8217;s paying customer count</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-102652</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, you continue to make yourself look like a cheerleader for Vertica when you simply act as a stenographer for their claims.  You might want to ask:

1.) Paying customers?  Paying what? $1.00 or $1,000,000.  Veterans of the software industry know that start-ups will &quot;buy&quot; deals to get the customer logos to build momentum.  There is nothing wrong or sinister about this well known practice but to simply repeat their claims without question does not provide value.

2.) For instance is JP Morgan listed as a customer because they evaluated the software for a project and are currently using it or because they purchased Bear Stearns and assumed the license?

3.) Do all of the customers own perpetual licenses that conform to FASB accounting principles or did some of them sign temporary evaluation licenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, you continue to make yourself look like a cheerleader for Vertica when you simply act as a stenographer for their claims.  You might want to ask:</p>
<p>1.) Paying customers?  Paying what? $1.00 or $1,000,000.  Veterans of the software industry know that start-ups will &#8220;buy&#8221; deals to get the customer logos to build momentum.  There is nothing wrong or sinister about this well known practice but to simply repeat their claims without question does not provide value.</p>
<p>2.) For instance is JP Morgan listed as a customer because they evaluated the software for a project and are currently using it or because they purchased Bear Stearns and assumed the license?</p>
<p>3.) Do all of the customers own perpetual licenses that conform to FASB accounting principles or did some of them sign temporary evaluation licenses?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy E</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-96669</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vertica was mentioned in the Sept 2007 Gartner data warehouse DBMS Magic Quadrant report (as a company to watch in 2008), but didn&#039;t get a dot in the diagram because we were too new to the market. The 2008 MQ comes out this fall (usually Sept).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vertica was mentioned in the Sept 2007 Gartner data warehouse DBMS Magic Quadrant report (as a company to watch in 2008), but didn&#8217;t get a dot in the diagram because we were too new to the market. The 2008 MQ comes out this fall (usually Sept).</p>
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		<title>By: Sales figures for analytic DBMS &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-96071</link>
		<dc:creator>Sales figures for analytic DBMS &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] claims 50 paying customers, all within the past year. Greenplum also claims 50 paying customers, almost all within the past [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] claims 50 paying customers, all within the past year. Greenplum also claims 50 paying customers, almost all within the past [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-95970</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome to search for &quot;Gartner&quot; or some other relevant string in our search box.  I forget when it&#039;s come out in other years, but I think you&#039;ll find enough clues in my posts for a good guess.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome to search for &#8220;Gartner&#8221; or some other relevant string in our search box.  I forget when it&#8217;s come out in other years, but I think you&#8217;ll find enough clues in my posts for a good guess.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting for Proof</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-95968</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiting for Proof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 50 customers shouldn&#039;t Vertica be on the Gartner magic quadrant for DW databases?

I don&#039;t see them there.

When does the next Gartner magic quadrant report come out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 50 customers shouldn&#8217;t Vertica be on the Gartner magic quadrant for DW databases?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see them there.</p>
<p>When does the next Gartner magic quadrant report come out?</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-95957</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dbms2.com/category/pricing/ has that information, to the extent that I&#039;ve

A.  Published it
B.  Done my categorization correctly ;)

I haven&#039;t posted it for Greenplum, but they circulate a slide pretty widely with pricing.  I guess I should put that information up too.

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dbms2.com/category/pricing/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dbms2.com/category/pricing/</a> has that information, to the extent that I&#8217;ve</p>
<p>A.  Published it<br />
B.  Done my categorization correctly <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t posted it for Greenplum, but they circulate a slide pretty widely with pricing.  I guess I should put that information up too.</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-95953</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you published the per TB figures for Vertica, Greenplum, Netezza and Datallegro (although I guess this last one is no longer going to be) anyware?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you published the per TB figures for Vertica, Greenplum, Netezza and Datallegro (although I guess this last one is no longer going to be) anyware?</p>
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		<title>By: Snarky Baloogle</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/08/26/vertica-paying-customer-count/#comment-95843</link>
		<dc:creator>Snarky Baloogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.

I guess Stonebraker and the DB Dinosaur gang are feeling left out lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.</p>
<p>I guess Stonebraker and the DB Dinosaur gang are feeling left out lately.</p>
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