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	<title>Comments on: Eric Lai on Oracle Exadata, and some addenda</title>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/29/eric-lai-oracle-exadata/#comment-98339</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. The server-side licenses in general aren&#039;t counted.  But the server-side hardware is.

$2.3 million is a remarkably meaningless number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. The server-side licenses in general aren&#8217;t counted.  But the server-side hardware is.</p>
<p>$2.3 million is a remarkably meaningless number.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/29/eric-lai-oracle-exadata/#comment-98338</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Oracle&#039;s Exadata Price List:

http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/exadata-pricelist.pdf

1 Database Machine = $650K
Exadata Storage Server SW = $10K/disk; 168 disks/DB Machine = $1,680K

$1,680K + $650K = $2.33M

Looks like $2.3M is for Database Machine HW + Exadata Storage Server SW with no Oracle Database licenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Oracle&#8217;s Exadata Price List:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/exadata-pricelist.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/exadata-pricelist.pdf</a></p>
<p>1 Database Machine = $650K<br />
Exadata Storage Server SW = $10K/disk; 168 disks/DB Machine = $1,680K</p>
<p>$1,680K + $650K = $2.33M</p>
<p>Looks like $2.3M is for Database Machine HW + Exadata Storage Server SW with no Oracle Database licenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/29/eric-lai-oracle-exadata/#comment-98158</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes sense.  It&#039;s hard to imagine where the number could be coming from otherwise.

I emailed you asking for permission to upload your version of the spreadsheet, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense.  It&#8217;s hard to imagine where the number could be coming from otherwise.</p>
<p>I emailed you asking for permission to upload your version of the spreadsheet, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bence</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/29/eric-lai-oracle-exadata/#comment-98154</link>
		<dc:creator>Bence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding pricing, I believe that the $2.33 million figure for a whole system is misleading.

During the keynote, Ellison put up a slide about pricing, which showed the price for a fully loaded ODM as $650,000 (hardware) + 1,680,000 (licenses), which amounts to $2,330,000 total. But there was a comment to the software licenses part of the slide: &quot;Use your existing database licenses &amp; 0% discount on storage server software&quot;. 

So it looks to me that the $2.3 million figure applies only if you already have the Oracle licenses and want to migrate an existing DW to the Database Machine. Otherwise you have to pay extra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding pricing, I believe that the $2.33 million figure for a whole system is misleading.</p>
<p>During the keynote, Ellison put up a slide about pricing, which showed the price for a fully loaded ODM as $650,000 (hardware) + 1,680,000 (licenses), which amounts to $2,330,000 total. But there was a comment to the software licenses part of the slide: &#8220;Use your existing database licenses &amp; 0% discount on storage server software&#8221;. </p>
<p>So it looks to me that the $2.3 million figure applies only if you already have the Oracle licenses and want to migrate an existing DW to the Database Machine. Otherwise you have to pay extra.</p>
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