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	<title>Comments on: Oracle Database Machine and Exadata pricing: Part 2</title>
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	<description>Choices in data management and analysis</description>
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		<title>By: Sorting out Netezza and Oracle Exadata data warehouse appliance pricing &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-134489</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorting out Netezza and Oracle Exadata data warehouse appliance pricing &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] terabytes of user data. I found Bence&#8217;s estimates excellent when he helped me work out then-current Exadata pricing last September. That&#8217;s a little under $100K/terabyte uncompressed, vs. Netezza&#8217;s figure of a little [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] terabytes of user data. I found Bence&#8217;s estimates excellent when he helped me work out then-current Exadata pricing last September. That&#8217;s a little under $100K/terabyte uncompressed, vs. Netezza&#8217;s figure of a little [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-107174</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redundancy is factored into the comparison between:

1.  Raw disk space.
2.  User data that there is room for.

The most detailed I&#039;ve been in working through such a comparison is for Greenplum, but the general idea is similar.

http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/01/estimating-user-data-vs-spinning-disk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redundancy is factored into the comparison between:</p>
<p>1.  Raw disk space.<br />
2.  User data that there is room for.</p>
<p>The most detailed I&#8217;ve been in working through such a comparison is for Greenplum, but the general idea is similar.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/01/estimating-user-data-vs-spinning-disk/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/01/estimating-user-data-vs-spinning-disk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-107170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t the need for double the number of cells for redundency as reported by Kevin increase the cost per terabyte?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the need for double the number of cells for redundency as reported by Kevin increase the cost per terabyte?</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle notes &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-99595</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle notes &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drive option has been increased from 300 to 450 gigabyte drives.  Presumably, this will take our estimate of high-end Exadata list pricing down from $198K/TB of user data to $122K.  Competitive vendors should show similar improvements, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] drive option has been increased from 300 to 450 gigabyte drives.  Presumably, this will take our estimate of high-end Exadata list pricing down from $198K/TB of user data to $122K.  Competitive vendors should show similar improvements, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A data warehouse pricing complication: Software vs. appliances &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-99130</link>
		<dc:creator>A data warehouse pricing complication: Software vs. appliances &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But I&#8217;d like to throw one of his ideas out there right now. Juan contends that comparisons of Oracle Exadata pricing are apt to be misleading because &#8212; among other reasons &#8212; Oracle licenses can be reused [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But I&#8217;d like to throw one of his ideas out there right now. Juan contends that comparisons of Oracle Exadata pricing are apt to be misleading because &#8212; among other reasons &#8212; Oracle licenses can be reused [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-98487</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  Finally updated the spreadsheet and blog post in line with Kevin&#039;s comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  Finally updated the spreadsheet and blog post in line with Kevin&#8217;s comment. <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-98211</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kevin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kevin!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Closson</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-98208</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Closson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exadata requires a 2-cell minimum from redundancy. Just FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exadata requires a 2-cell minimum from redundancy. Just FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-98194</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I read correctly, the kinds of features you need for analytics are part of the chargeable option.

Those features are spelled out in the link above.  

What Oracle gives away for free seems to be a lot of other stuff relevant to more transactional applications, which Netezza and Teradata (probably) don&#039;t offer at all.

Did I read incorrectly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I read correctly, the kinds of features you need for analytics are part of the chargeable option.</p>
<p>Those features are spelled out in the link above.  </p>
<p>What Oracle gives away for free seems to be a lot of other stuff relevant to more transactional applications, which Netezza and Teradata (probably) don&#8217;t offer at all.</p>
<p>Did I read incorrectly?</p>
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		<title>By: rc</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/30/oracle-database-machine-exadata-pricing-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-98193</link>
		<dc:creator>rc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have got to pay for Oracle Spatial but a subset of the Oracle Spatial features is free. 

This free subset is called Oracle Locator and it is often sufficient. 

I don&#039;t know whether Terradata Spatial knows more features than Oracle Locator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have got to pay for Oracle Spatial but a subset of the Oracle Spatial features is free. </p>
<p>This free subset is called Oracle Locator and it is often sufficient. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether Terradata Spatial knows more features than Oracle Locator.</p>
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