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	<title>Comments on: Everybody&#8217;s putting integration services in the cloud</title>
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		<title>By: Cast Iron takes &#8216;integration as a service&#8217; to cloud-based or on-premises deployment &#124; Dana Gardner&#8217;s BriefingsDirect &#124; ZDNet.com</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-99392</link>
		<dc:creator>Cast Iron takes &#8216;integration as a service&#8217; to cloud-based or on-premises deployment &#124; Dana Gardner&#8217;s BriefingsDirect &#124; ZDNet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Curt Monash of DBMS2 says that the move by Cast Iron isn’t the first such offering, but seems to be the most comprehensive: The most comprehensive integration-as-a-service story I’ve heard may be the one Cast Iron Systems is rolling out. Cast Iron is hosting with OpSource any integration you can get in the Cast Iron appliance. To emphasize this, pricing is identical to that of the rental option for the appliance ($1K/month in the simplest two-endpoint cases), and customers are encouraged to switch between appliance and cloud usage as they see fit. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Curt Monash of DBMS2 says that the move by Cast Iron isn’t the first such offering, but seems to be the most comprehensive: The most comprehensive integration-as-a-service story I’ve heard may be the one Cast Iron Systems is rolling out. Cast Iron is hosting with OpSource any integration you can get in the Cast Iron appliance. To emphasize this, pricing is identical to that of the rental option for the appliance ($1K/month in the simplest two-endpoint cases), and customers are encouraged to switch between appliance and cloud usage as they see fit. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Multitenancy hype is getting out of control &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>Multitenancy hype is getting out of control &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted recently on SaaS-data-integration-in-the-cloud, and a couple of vendors stopped by the comment thread to shared what they do. One was Boomi, which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted recently on SaaS-data-integration-in-the-cloud, and a couple of vendors stopped by the comment thread to shared what they do. One was Boomi, which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98961</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

Interesting that Boomi&#039;s news is Intuit/QuickBooks, which is exactly where Pervasive&#039;s offering seems to be pointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>Interesting that Boomi&#8217;s news is Intuit/QuickBooks, which is exactly where Pervasive&#8217;s offering seems to be pointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98960</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yves,

I was assuming much of that in my post.

I&#039;ve been writing for a year or two, for example, that Cast Iron&#039;s main business is connecting on-premise and SaaS apps to each other. Pervasive probably has 10X the customers for hybrid on-premise/SaaS QuickBooks integrations as it does pure cloud ones, and that figure may even be low.

But my point was that the cloud-only side of integration is ALSO now starting up.

Anyhow, thanks for stopping in.  You guys should brief me some time.

Best,

CAM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yves,</p>
<p>I was assuming much of that in my post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been writing for a year or two, for example, that Cast Iron&#8217;s main business is connecting on-premise and SaaS apps to each other. Pervasive probably has 10X the customers for hybrid on-premise/SaaS QuickBooks integrations as it does pure cloud ones, and that figure may even be low.</p>
<p>But my point was that the cloud-only side of integration is ALSO now starting up.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks for stopping in.  You guys should brief me some time.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>CAM</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98959</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vincent, 

That&#039;s a good question -- but the partnership IS out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vincent, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good question &#8212; but the partnership IS out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent McBurney</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98931</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent McBurney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2006 Oracle signed a new four year OEM deal with Informatica to give PowerCenter to Oracle CRM on Demand customers.  Oracle had already purchased Sunopsis for Fusion data integration but that product is not suited to SaaS data integration.  So Informatica is the front runner for Oracle SaaS applications.  I&#039;m not sure what traction Cast Iron has with Oracle CRM on Demand customers when they are already getting PowerCenter and can add on Informatica SaaS data quality products.

Informatica told me a couple months ago they had 55 new customers via SaaS offerings over the last three years - and some of those have turned into behind the firewall customers.  

Click on my website link for more details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2006 Oracle signed a new four year OEM deal with Informatica to give PowerCenter to Oracle CRM on Demand customers.  Oracle had already purchased Sunopsis for Fusion data integration but that product is not suited to SaaS data integration.  So Informatica is the front runner for Oracle SaaS applications.  I&#8217;m not sure what traction Cast Iron has with Oracle CRM on Demand customers when they are already getting PowerCenter and can add on Informatica SaaS data quality products.</p>
<p>Informatica told me a couple months ago they had 55 new customers via SaaS offerings over the last three years &#8211; and some of those have turned into behind the firewall customers.  </p>
<p>Click on my website link for more details.</p>
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		<title>By: Yves de Montcheuil</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98916</link>
		<dc:creator>Yves de Montcheuil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt, one of the issues with integration in the Cloud has to do with the applications that reside inside the firewall.  Integrating Salesforce.com is useful only if you integrate it with something else: your accounting, shipping, inventory management, etc.  Very few companies run all their IT in the Cloud, they often have an hybrid architecture.  Which is why Talend offers connectors for SaaS/Cloud applications as well as for all the &quot;traditional&quot; IT stack: RDBMS, ERP/CRM, files, XML, etc. Being able to connect to all your sources and targets is really the key here.

Yves @ Talend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt, one of the issues with integration in the Cloud has to do with the applications that reside inside the firewall.  Integrating Salesforce.com is useful only if you integrate it with something else: your accounting, shipping, inventory management, etc.  Very few companies run all their IT in the Cloud, they often have an hybrid architecture.  Which is why Talend offers connectors for SaaS/Cloud applications as well as for all the &#8220;traditional&#8221; IT stack: RDBMS, ERP/CRM, files, XML, etc. Being able to connect to all your sources and targets is really the key here.</p>
<p>Yves @ Talend</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Nucci</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/09/cloud-data-integration/#comment-98914</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Nucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Curt,

I just wanted to let you know about Boomi, the company I work for.  We announced our SaaS integration platform in Jun 07, and have built from the ground up a true single-instance, multi-tenant SaaS application for solving integration in the SaaS ecosystem, which is a very different approach from the guys you reference above.

Let me know if you have any questions, thanks-

-Rick Nucci</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Curt,</p>
<p>I just wanted to let you know about Boomi, the company I work for.  We announced our SaaS integration platform in Jun 07, and have built from the ground up a true single-instance, multi-tenant SaaS application for solving integration in the SaaS ecosystem, which is a very different approach from the guys you reference above.</p>
<p>Let me know if you have any questions, thanks-</p>
<p>-Rick Nucci</p>
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