Comments on: Introduction to Talend http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/ Choices in data management and analysis Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:51:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Talend update | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/#comment-125981 Talend update | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:57:57 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=612#comment-125981 [...] chatted yesterday at TDWI with Yves de Montcheuil of Talend, as a follow-up to some chats at Teradata Partners in October. This time around I got more metrics, [...] [...] chatted yesterday at TDWI with Yves de Montcheuil of Talend, as a follow-up to some chats at Teradata Partners in October. This time around I got more metrics, [...]

]]> By: Yves de Montcheuil http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/#comment-100743 Yves de Montcheuil Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:03:56 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=612#comment-100743 Norman, I wonder where you got that misconception about performance. Talend does not use an integration engine but is a code generator. Try to beat the performance of native code with a proprietary engine! And I am not going to apologize for charging for technical support - we are a commercial company, and we do charge for value added services and features. We do not really compete with Kettle, there is enough market share (and unhappy clients of proprietary vendors) out there for two open source products. Norman, I wonder where you got that misconception about performance. Talend does not use an integration engine but is a code generator. Try to beat the performance of native code with a proprietary engine!
And I am not going to apologize for charging for technical support – we are a commercial company, and we do charge for value added services and features.
We do not really compete with Kettle, there is enough market share (and unhappy clients of proprietary vendors) out there for two open source products.

]]> By: Norman http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/#comment-100286 Norman Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:37:36 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=612#comment-100286 I thought Talend compete with Pentaho Kettle among other open source projects. They both have a nice user interface but looks like the performance is not on their priority list. The teamwork module was weak so far so you pay 5K for support with hope to get some help from a live person because the documentation is just introduction. Definitely not a server based product, and I believe that why pay-per-dev seat make more sense to them I thought Talend compete with Pentaho Kettle among other open source projects. They both have a nice user interface but looks like the performance is not on their priority list.
The teamwork module was weak so far so you pay 5K for support with hope to get some help from a live person because the documentation is just introduction.
Definitely not a server based product, and I believe that why pay-per-dev seat make more sense to them

]]> By: Curt Monash http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/#comment-100192 Curt Monash Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:47:18 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=612#comment-100192 Yves, Thanks. I love the blog publishing format for many reasons. One reason is that it allows one to catch up with details like this. :) Great talking with you, CAM Yves,

Thanks. I love the blog publishing format for many reasons. One reason is that it allows one to catch up with details like this. :)

Great talking with you,

CAM

]]> By: Yves de Montcheuil http://www.dbms2.com/2008/10/17/introduction-to-talend/#comment-100162 Yves de Montcheuil Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:07:44 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=612#comment-100162 Curt, thanks for the detailed post. If I may refresh your memory on some of these points. - "I forget what the exact list of possible target languages is": target languages for code generation are Java, Perl, with embedded SQL (native for each DB supported) - "charging for run-times is usually a lot better as a business model than charging for development seats": in the sense that you can extract a lot more money from the customers, yes. But this is not the fairest model for clients. - "I forget whether there’s any feature difference between the editions, or whether it’s all support/indemnification/etc.": it goes beyond support and indemnification, Talend Integration Suite also offers teamwork and enterprise deployment/monitoring capabilities. But all connectors are included in both the GPL and the subscription version. And I agree, the Teradata conference was great, and open source ETL attracted lots of people. It now is clearly identified as an enterprise-ready solution. Curt, thanks for the detailed post. If I may refresh your memory on some of these points.

- “I forget what the exact list of possible target languages is”: target languages for code generation are Java, Perl, with embedded SQL (native for each DB supported)

- “charging for run-times is usually a lot better as a business model than charging for development seats”: in the sense that you can extract a lot more money from the customers, yes. But this is not the fairest model for clients.

- “I forget whether there’s any feature difference between the editions, or whether it’s all support/indemnification/etc.”: it goes beyond support and indemnification, Talend Integration Suite also offers teamwork and enterprise deployment/monitoring capabilities. But all connectors are included in both the GPL and the subscription version.

And I agree, the Teradata conference was great, and open source ETL attracted lots of people. It now is clearly identified as an enterprise-ready solution.

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