Comments on: Draft slides on how to select an analytic DBMS http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/ Choices in data management and analysis Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:48:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Even more final version of my TDWI slide deck | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-111550 Even more final version of my TDWI slide deck | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:09:34 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-111550 [...] My TDWI talk on How to Select an Analytic DBMS starts in less than an hour.  So the latest version of my slide deck should prove truly final, unlike my prior two. [...] [...] My TDWI talk on How to Select an Analytic DBMS starts in less than an hour.  So the latest version of my slide deck should prove truly final, unlike my prior two. [...]

]]> By: My TDWI Night School course Wednesday night | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-110849 My TDWI Night School course Wednesday night | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:59:37 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-110849 [...] be holding forth Wednesday night on How to Select an Analytic DBMS.  I’ve already posted the slides. Share: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web [...] [...] be holding forth Wednesday night on How to Select an Analytic DBMS.  I’ve already posted the slides. Share: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web [...]

]]> By: Final (for now) slides on how to select a data warehouse DBMS | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109511 Final (for now) slides on how to select a data warehouse DBMS | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:15:21 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109511 [...] now posted a final version of the slide deck* I first posted Wednesday.  And I do mean final; TDWI likes its slide decks locked down weeks in advance, because they go to [...] [...] now posted a final version of the slide deck* I first posted Wednesday.  And I do mean final; TDWI likes its slide decks locked down weeks in advance, because they go to [...]

]]> By: Curt Monash http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109465 Curt Monash Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:00:31 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109465 Satil, You're of course right. But I don't want to talk about the compatibility issues at any length, because they really are a matter of checklists (backed up by reference checks if need be). Maybe I need to add a slide at the end that's a "Checklist of checklists". Satil,

You’re of course right. But I don’t want to talk about the compatibility issues at any length, because they really are a matter of checklists (backed up by reference checks if need be).

Maybe I need to add a slide at the end that’s a “Checklist of checklists”.

]]> By: 分析型数据仓库选型 | Alex的个人Blog http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109457 分析型数据仓库选型 | Alex的个人Blog Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:08:20 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109457 [...] http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/ [...] [...] http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/ [...]

]]> By: Satil Hecht http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109440 Satil Hecht Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:18:15 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109440 Hi Curt, Nice presentation. Couple of comments you may want to consider: - There are differences from one vendor to the other when it comes to the duration and cost to get up and running. Appliances like the IBM BCU and Teradata help remove the risk in integrating the right components, and ensuring that you have the right balance and configuration for success when you go live. - Another consideration is integration with other components of the data warehouse like ETL, archiving solutions, and BI tools. We found some vendors either lacked the support needed, or left majority of the integration for us to figure out. Thanks! Hi Curt, Nice presentation. Couple of comments you may want to consider:
- There are differences from one vendor to the other when it comes to the duration and cost to get up and running. Appliances like the IBM BCU and Teradata help remove the risk in integrating the right components, and ensuring that you have the right balance and configuration for success when you go live.
- Another consideration is integration with other components of the data warehouse like ETL, archiving solutions, and BI tools. We found some vendors either lacked the support needed, or left majority of the integration for us to figure out.

Thanks!

]]> By: John Sichi http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109411 John Sichi Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:22:11 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109411 Hi Curt, It would be nice to see LucidDB in there eventually. As an open source project with no marketing department behind it, I guess we're under your radar, but I'd be glad to fill you in when you have time. JVS Hi Curt,

It would be nice to see LucidDB in there eventually. As an open source project with no marketing department behind it, I guess we’re under your radar, but I’d be glad to fill you in when you have time.

JVS

]]> By: D http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109354 D Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:25:14 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109354 Great presentation. A couple of points- I think it is important to understand functionality, cost and performance requirements and determine the intersection of these. For example, I have encountered folks who just need a large amount of historical data available for occasional analysis with very few concurrent users (if at all). If availability and cost (and not performance) is a concern, they can get by with a cheaper solution. (Of course, once it is live, chances are it will receive more use than originally expected over time.) The flip side of this is where money is no object and performance is crucial, they will probably look at a different set of vendors. Another minor comment is that POCs do take time and effort to manage with the vendors, so one may want to first winnow down the list after all instead of doing many. Great presentation.

A couple of points-

I think it is important to understand functionality, cost and performance requirements and determine the intersection of these. For example, I have encountered folks who just need a large amount of historical data available for occasional analysis with very few concurrent users (if at all). If availability and cost (and not performance) is a concern, they can get by with a cheaper solution. (Of course, once it is live, chances are it will receive more use than originally expected over time.) The flip side of this is where money is no object and performance is crucial, they will probably look at a different set of vendors.

Another minor comment is that POCs do take time and effort to manage with the vendors, so one may want to first winnow down the list after all instead of doing many.

]]> By: Imre http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109329 Imre Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:40:57 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109329 Nice Post! +1 factor: the "ETL Tool" ... +1 keywords: "Open Source" vs . "Closed Source" Nice Post!

+1 factor: the “ETL Tool” …
+1 keywords: “Open Source” vs . “Closed Source”

]]> By: AV http://www.dbms2.com/2009/02/04/draft-slides-on-how-to-select-an-analytic-dbms/#comment-109305 AV Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:37:26 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=681#comment-109305 Great post. You mention manageability and availability in the same item. Is there a manageability checklist which is distinct from availability? Should the buyer focus on day-to-day stability of long standing reports? How does the DBA work with slowdown of queries? Does he run explain plan? How many stats collection jobs does he have to run nightly? These are unglamorous manageability activities but are very, very time consuming. Of course, in an ideal world, the queries always run faster and faster. And the world wouldn't need DBAs. Great post.

You mention manageability and availability in the same item. Is there a manageability checklist which is distinct from availability?

Should the buyer focus on day-to-day stability of long standing reports? How does the DBA work with slowdown of queries? Does he run explain plan? How many stats collection jobs does he have to run nightly? These are unglamorous manageability activities but are very, very time consuming.

Of course, in an ideal world, the queries always run faster and faster. And the world wouldn’t need DBAs.

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