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	<title>Comments on: Closing the book on the DATAllegro customer base</title>
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		<title>By: Facts and rumors &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-141906</link>
		<dc:creator>Facts and rumors &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sources have told me that the DATAllegro system is being thrown out of Dell, so evidently Dell is telling this to one and all. If that goes through, this would presumably [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sources have told me that the DATAllegro system is being thrown out of Dell, so evidently Dell is telling this to one and all. If that goes through, this would presumably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eBay&#8217;s two enormous data warehouses &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-119271</link>
		<dc:creator>eBay&#8217;s two enormous data warehouses &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To a probably lesser extent, the same is now also true of Dell. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To a probably lesser extent, the same is now also true of Dell. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DW Consultant</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-112423</link>
		<dc:creator>DW Consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Questions about that it is indeed very neat for the marketing and CEO (who convinced MSFT) to buy this technology is. At the same time you can even say how foolish was MSFT not to even look under the hood. This gives us inidcation that MSFT is no more innovative company, it just relies on easy way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Questions about that it is indeed very neat for the marketing and CEO (who convinced MSFT) to buy this technology is. At the same time you can even say how foolish was MSFT not to even look under the hood. This gives us inidcation that MSFT is no more innovative company, it just relies on easy way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome Pineau</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-112131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome Pineau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, if they managed to get MSFT to cash them out with only 3 customers, that&#039;s a pretty neat trick :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, if they managed to get MSFT to cash them out with only 3 customers, that&#8217;s a pretty neat trick <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-112014</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Anonymous, since you evidently work for a company that also made a sale to the unnamed third user on my DATAllegro list -- how&#039;s the DATAllegro installation going there? How&#039;s yours? How&#039;s the third analytic DBMS startup vendors&#039; who sold there, if you know which part of the company they&#039;re in?

(This assumes, of course, that I&#039;m keeping my anonymous commenters straight ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Anonymous, since you evidently work for a company that also made a sale to the unnamed third user on my DATAllegro list &#8212; how&#8217;s the DATAllegro installation going there? How&#8217;s yours? How&#8217;s the third analytic DBMS startup vendors&#8217; who sold there, if you know which part of the company they&#8217;re in?</p>
<p>(This assumes, of course, that I&#8217;m keeping my anonymous commenters straight &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-112011</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Anonymous, but:

A.  DATAllegro never gave me any such figures.
B.  DATAllegro never gave me any such references.
C.  Neither I nor anybody else I know of in the industry has ever identified any but those three customers.
D.  One big sale can suffice for large revenue growth.

Frankly, I used to believe that DATAllegro had more customers too.  Other analysts obviously shared my error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Anonymous, but:</p>
<p>A.  DATAllegro never gave me any such figures.<br />
B.  DATAllegro never gave me any such references.<br />
C.  Neither I nor anybody else I know of in the industry has ever identified any but those three customers.<br />
D.  One big sale can suffice for large revenue growth.</p>
<p>Frankly, I used to believe that DATAllegro had more customers too.  Other analysts obviously shared my error.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-111995</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this July 2006 article by Krishna Roy for The451.com
http://www.datallegro.com/pdf/451_coverage_july2006.pdf
&quot;Executives report that it now has between 15 and 20 customers.&quot;

Press release, October 25 2007
http://www.datallegro.com/pr/10_25_07_growth.asp
&quot;DATALLEGRO ANNOUNCES 330% GROWTH...&quot;

Gartner &quot;Magic Quadrant for Data Warehouse Database Management Systems, 2007&quot; dated October 10, 2007:
&quot;Growth has been consistent, and the company currently has about 15 to 20 customers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this July 2006 article by Krishna Roy for The451.com<br />
<a href="http://www.datallegro.com/pdf/451_coverage_july2006.pdf" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/www.datallegro.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.datallegro.com/pdf/451_coverage_july2006.pdf</a><br />
&#8220;Executives report that it now has between 15 and 20 customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Press release, October 25 2007<br />
<a href="http://www.datallegro.com/pr/10_25_07_growth.asp" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/www.datallegro.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.datallegro.com/pr/10_25_07_growth.asp</a><br />
&#8220;DATALLEGRO ANNOUNCES 330% GROWTH&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Gartner &#8220;Magic Quadrant for Data Warehouse Database Management Systems, 2007&#8243; dated October 10, 2007:<br />
&#8220;Growth has been consistent, and the company currently has about 15 to 20 customers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-111935</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, technically, the identity of the third one is NDA. 

But anyhow, I&#039;ve never heard anything about NPD. I haven&#039;t even heard it identified as the DATAllegro customer that sent its DATAllegro system back.

I guess I should have searched for press releases a bit more carefully. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, technically, the identity of the third one is NDA. </p>
<p>But anyhow, I&#8217;ve never heard anything about NPD. I haven&#8217;t even heard it identified as the DATAllegro customer that sent its DATAllegro system back.</p>
<p>I guess I should have searched for press releases a bit more carefully. <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/03/02/closing-the-book-on-the-datallegro-customer-base/comment-page-1/#comment-111932</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four
NPD Group
http://www.datallegro.com/pr/2_16_06_npd.asp

Sears Holding
http://www.datallegro.com/pr/5_23_06_sears.asp

But are they still operating? Did either ever reach production?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four<br />
NPD Group<br />
<a href="http://www.datallegro.com/pr/2_16_06_npd.asp" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/www.datallegro.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.datallegro.com/pr/2_16_06_npd.asp</a></p>
<p>Sears Holding<br />
<a href="http://www.datallegro.com/pr/5_23_06_sears.asp" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/www.datallegro.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.datallegro.com/pr/5_23_06_sears.asp</a></p>
<p>But are they still operating? Did either ever reach production?</p>
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