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		<title>By: Apparent turmoil at EnterpriseDB &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-125632</link>
		<dc:creator>Apparent turmoil at EnterpriseDB &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] focus had to be changed anyway. And Fred Holahan was the proximate cause for me writing: my recent dealings with EnterpriseDB underscore the importance of being VERY careful about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] focus had to be changed anyway. And Fred Holahan was the proximate cause for me writing: my recent dealings with EnterpriseDB underscore the importance of being VERY careful about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-121430</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on the new EnterpriseDB management team is that even when they recognize and acknowledge that they haven&#039;t lived up to a commitment, they can&#039;t be trusted to fix the problem. 

Frankly, EnterpriseDB is small enough and I have enough PR influence that I probably could have intimidated them into doing the right thing if I&#039;d squeezed hard enough. But the amount of squeezing evidently required was more than I felt comfortable with.

EnterpriseDB&#039;s prior management team had the usual mismatch between marketing claims and reality, but I take that in stride. They were on the whole good guys.  But I suspect the new ones don&#039;t value individuals -- e.g., individual customers -- enough to be good business partners for enterprises.

I know that&#039;s vague, but it&#039;s all I intend to provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on the new EnterpriseDB management team is that even when they recognize and acknowledge that they haven&#8217;t lived up to a commitment, they can&#8217;t be trusted to fix the problem. </p>
<p>Frankly, EnterpriseDB is small enough and I have enough PR influence that I probably could have intimidated them into doing the right thing if I&#8217;d squeezed hard enough. But the amount of squeezing evidently required was more than I felt comfortable with.</p>
<p>EnterpriseDB&#8217;s prior management team had the usual mismatch between marketing claims and reality, but I take that in stride. They were on the whole good guys.  But I suspect the new ones don&#8217;t value individuals &#8212; e.g., individual customers &#8212; enough to be good business partners for enterprises.</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s vague, but it&#8217;s all I intend to provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Young</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-121421</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; although my recent dealings with EnterpriseDB underscore the importance of being VERY careful about counting your fingers after you shake hands with that company.

OK, but are you going to divulge the nasty bits?  Or are they in a post I can&#039;t find?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; although my recent dealings with EnterpriseDB underscore the importance of being VERY careful about counting your fingers after you shake hands with that company.</p>
<p>OK, but are you going to divulge the nasty bits?  Or are they in a post I can&#8217;t find?  <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-119609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Java isn&#039;t the big deal here

It&#039;s all about the solid state anatomy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Java isn&#8217;t the big deal here</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the solid state anatomy</p>
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		<title>By: 對甲骨文買昇陽的一些雜記與想法 於囧</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-118337</link>
		<dc:creator>對甲骨文買昇陽的一些雜記與想法 於囧</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ＞＞對這則新聞的第一時間想法 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quick links to Curt Monash&#8217;s analyses of the Sun/Oracle deal with a MySQL-focus &#124; Pythian Group Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-117940</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick links to Curt Monash&#8217;s analyses of the Sun/Oracle deal with a MySQL-focus &#124; Pythian Group Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] First thoughts on Oracle Acquiring Sun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-117652</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt,

I have now put together a slightly more considered piece, drawing on the thoughts of people in the blogosphere and on various on-line forums. This can be found at:

http://peterthomas.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/combinatorics/

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p>
<p>I have now put together a slightly more considered piece, drawing on the thoughts of people in the blogosphere and on various on-line forums. This can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://peterthomas.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/combinatorics/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/peterthomas.wordpress.com');" rel="nofollow">http://peterthomas.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/combinatorics/</a></p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Mergers and value &#171; Peter Thomas - Award-winning Business Intelligence and Cultural Transformation Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-117595</link>
		<dc:creator>Mergers and value &#171; Peter Thomas - Award-winning Business Intelligence and Cultural Transformation Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Curt Monash [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Max Lybbert</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-117513</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Lybbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a technical standpoint, going with a fork would be much easier.  But I&#039;m uneasy about the chances for the forks you listed in your fourth follow-up post to the acquisition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a technical standpoint, going with a fork would be much easier.  But I&#8217;m uneasy about the chances for the forks you listed in your fourth follow-up post to the acquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/first-thoughts-on-oracle-acquiring-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-117482</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt,

Thanks for noticing the typo in my original piece.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt,</p>
<p>Thanks for noticing the typo in my original piece.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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