Comments on: Infobright update http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/ Choices in data management and analysis Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:09:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Calpont’s InfiniDB | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-148372 Calpont’s InfiniDB | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:35:33 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-148372 [...] One thing free InfiniDB has that Infobright only offers in its Enterprise Edition is ACID-compliant Insert/Update/Delete. (Note: I wish people would stop saying that Infobright Enterprise Edition isn’t ACID-compliant, since that point was cleared up a while ago.) [...] [...] One thing free InfiniDB has that Infobright only offers in its Enterprise Edition is ACID-compliant Insert/Update/Delete. (Note: I wish people would stop saying that Infobright Enterprise Edition isn’t ACID-compliant, since that point was cleared up a while ago.) [...]

]]> By: Infobright metrics | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-129608 Infobright metrics | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:41:57 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-129608 [...] posted about Infobright, and included some company-supplied metrics. Most looked familiar from a post I did in April, but Infobright’s latest figure for # of paying customers seems to be “>60″, [...] [...] posted about Infobright, and included some company-supplied metrics. Most looked familiar from a post I did in April, but Infobright’s latest figure for # of paying customers seems to be “>60″, [...]

]]> By: Justin Swanhart http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-121957 Justin Swanhart Mon, 18 May 2009 18:24:01 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-121957 ACID stands for: Atomicity Consistency Integrity Durability Please explain how Infobright accomplishes all of these tasks w/out any transactional logging that I'm aware of? For instance, how can they claim to support the 'I' in acid w/out supporting FOREIGN KEY CONSTRAINTS and UNIQUE KEY CONSTRAINTS, which form the basis of integrity checking? Since they don't support the concept of transactions, how can I load into two tables atomically and ensure rows do not end up in either of the tables (ie, both loads are rolled back) if an error happens on either load? This is the 'A' in ACID. I imagine that the 'C' and 'D' portions are handled well, at least in the case of the database crashing while loading a single table, since a column store has an easily identified HWM (high water mark) for the columns. I'm not sure how they can guarantee this across multiple tables w/out transactional logging which I'm not aware of. ACID stands for:

Atomicity
Consistency
Integrity
Durability

Please explain how Infobright accomplishes all of these tasks w/out any transactional logging that I’m aware of?

For instance, how can they claim to support the ‘I’ in acid w/out supporting FOREIGN KEY CONSTRAINTS and UNIQUE KEY CONSTRAINTS, which form the basis of integrity checking?

Since they don’t support the concept of transactions, how can I load into two tables atomically and ensure rows do not end up in either of the tables (ie, both loads are rolled back) if an error happens on either load? This is the ‘A’ in ACID.

I imagine that the ‘C’ and ‘D’ portions are handled well, at least in the case of the database crashing while loading a single table, since a column store has an easily identified HWM (high water mark) for the columns. I’m not sure how they can guarantee this across multiple tables w/out transactional logging which I’m not aware of.

]]> By: Victoria Eastwood http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-117454 Victoria Eastwood Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:11:26 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-117454 Hi Curt, It was nice to talk with you last week. Our apologies for not updating you on ACID compliance. We have made a number of changes in this area and now pass ACID compliance, using the TPC-H tests as a guideline. As you suggest, we should have included that in the release and briefing. Regarding SQL 2003 standard support, MySQL supports very few of these newer additions including even some from SQL-99. We would need to extend MySQL ourselves to add support and we haven't seen a market demand yet to schedule the extra work. Cheers Hi Curt,

It was nice to talk with you last week. Our apologies for not updating you on ACID compliance. We have made a number of changes in this area and now pass ACID compliance, using the TPC-H tests as a guideline. As you suggest, we should have included that in the release and briefing.

Regarding SQL 2003 standard support, MySQL supports very few of these newer additions including even some from SQL-99. We would need to extend MySQL ourselves to add support and we haven’t seen a market demand yet to schedule the extra work.

Cheers

]]> By: MySQL storage engine round-up, with Oracle-related thoughts | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-117417 MySQL storage engine round-up, with Oracle-related thoughts | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:39:42 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-117417 [...] Infobright is the most established of the rest. At the moment I’m not recommending it for most industrial-strength uses unless the user is particularly cash-constrained. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that changed soon.  A cheap, fast, simple columnar analytic DBMS has a place in the world. [...] [...] Infobright is the most established of the rest. At the moment I’m not recommending it for most industrial-strength uses unless the user is particularly cash-constrained. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that changed soon.  A cheap, fast, simple columnar analytic DBMS has a place in the world. [...]

]]> By: Calpont update — you read it here first! | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/04/20/infobright-update-3/comment-page-1/#comment-117394 Calpont update — you read it here first! | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:05:47 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=753#comment-117394 [...] to offer a MySQL storage engine for analytic database processing. Thus, Calpont will compete with Infobright, Kickfire, and perhaps [...] [...] to offer a MySQL storage engine for analytic database processing. Thus, Calpont will compete with Infobright, Kickfire, and perhaps [...]

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