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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-221278</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 12:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randolph,

Those are old figures now, but they were perpetual license figures, if I recall correctly.

Oracle&#039;s 22% maintenance figure has become widely popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randolph,</p>
<p>Those are old figures now, but they were perpetual license figures, if I recall correctly.</p>
<p>Oracle&#8217;s 22% maintenance figure has become widely popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Randolph</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-221243</link>
		<dc:creator>Randolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 08:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt, Are these charges comparable? 
i.e. Are they once off charges or annual ?
If once off, what percentage do they charge for support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt, Are these charges comparable?<br />
i.e. Are they once off charges or annual ?<br />
If once off, what percentage do they charge for support?</p>
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		<title>By: User data vs. raw disk space as a marketing metric &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-133445</link>
		<dc:creator>User data vs. raw disk space as a marketing metric &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I favor user data as a metric [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-125152</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot cheaper. :)

I don&#039;t have more detail.

But then, they have few enough OEMs each that each deal is surely negotiated separately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot cheaper. <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have more detail.</p>
<p>But then, they have few enough OEMs each that each deal is surely negotiated separately.</p>
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		<title>By: Robt. David</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-125144</link>
		<dc:creator>Robt. David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote:
&quot;Software-only DBMS vendors sometimes price per terabyte of user data.  Vertica’s list price is $100K/TB. Greenplum’s list price is $70K/TB.&quot;

Curt - do you have any idea how do these firms price out their product for ISVs/OEMs that embed their solutions (vs. end user implementations)? Thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote:<br />
&#8220;Software-only DBMS vendors sometimes price per terabyte of user data.  Vertica’s list price is $100K/TB. Greenplum’s list price is $70K/TB.&#8221;</p>
<p>Curt &#8211; do you have any idea how do these firms price out their product for ISVs/OEMs that embed their solutions (vs. end user implementations)? Thx.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McIntire</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-125010</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McIntire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the industry needs several new pricing models. The CPU or Data volume licensing models currently in place make a basic assumption that a particular volume of data is worth a set amount of value, and further, that the third party software company is entitled to a percentage of that value. 

The problem is, if you have an application which produces prodigious amounts of data at very low cost (see ANY web company for examples), the current pricing can and does exceed the value of the data per unit of licensing. Look no further than any large scale map/reduce or hadoop implementation for an example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the industry needs several new pricing models. The CPU or Data volume licensing models currently in place make a basic assumption that a particular volume of data is worth a set amount of value, and further, that the third party software company is entitled to a percentage of that value. </p>
<p>The problem is, if you have an application which produces prodigious amounts of data at very low cost (see ANY web company for examples), the current pricing can and does exceed the value of the data per unit of licensing. Look no further than any large scale map/reduce or hadoop implementation for an example.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Klopp</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/per-terabyte-pricing/#comment-124650</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Klopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenplum, like Vertica, does not charge for test or development systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenplum, like Vertica, does not charge for test or development systems.</p>
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