Comments on: The future of data marts http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/ Choices in data management and analysis Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:09:32 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Interesting trends in database and analytic technology | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-157651 Interesting trends in database and analytic technology | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:12:16 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-157651 [...] area I flat-out forgot to mention is easy data mart spin-out. Categories: Analytic technologies, Business intelligence, Data models and architecture, Data [...] [...] area I flat-out forgot to mention is easy data mart spin-out. Categories: Analytic technologies, Business intelligence, Data models and architecture, Data [...]

]]> By: ahmad http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-155445 ahmad Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:58:09 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-155445 Dr: hi, how are you please I'm student in university i want example for application data mart and explain this example. Dr:
hi, how are you please I’m student in university i want example for application data mart and explain this example.

]]> By: BI-Quotient » Blog Archive » Data warehousing for free! Terabyte sized data warehouse and business intelligence without license costs http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-145970 BI-Quotient » Blog Archive » Data warehousing for free! Terabyte sized data warehouse and business intelligence without license costs Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-145970 [...] (1) Greenplum themselves promote this offering as part of their Enterprise Data Cloud. They have a vision of self service data marts. Based on this, data analysts can go to the Enterprise Data Warehouse and via interfaces create their own data marts for in depth analysis outside the EDW. Have a look at Curt Monash’s excellent article on the future of data marts. [...] [...] (1) Greenplum themselves promote this offering as part of their Enterprise Data Cloud. They have a vision of self service data marts. Based on this, data analysts can go to the Enterprise Data Warehouse and via interfaces create their own data marts for in depth analysis outside the EDW. Have a look at Curt Monash’s excellent article on the future of data marts. [...]

]]> By: BI-Quotient » Blog Archive » Data warehousing for free! Terabyte sized data warehouse and business intelligence without license costs http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-145971 BI-Quotient » Blog Archive » Data warehousing for free! Terabyte sized data warehouse and business intelligence without license costs Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-145971 [...] (1) Greenplum themselves promote this offering as part of their Enterprise Data Cloud. They have a vision of self service data marts. Based on this, data analysts can go to the Enterprise Data Warehouse and via interfaces create their own data marts for in depth analysis outside the EDW. Have a look at Curt Monash’s excellent article on the future of data marts. [...] [...] (1) Greenplum themselves promote this offering as part of their Enterprise Data Cloud. They have a vision of self service data marts. Based on this, data analysts can go to the Enterprise Data Warehouse and via interfaces create their own data marts for in depth analysis outside the EDW. Have a look at Curt Monash’s excellent article on the future of data marts. [...]

]]> By: Data marts in the world of text | Text Technologies http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-140943 Data marts in the world of text | Text Technologies Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:09:59 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-140943 [...] The future of data marts Categories: Enterprise search, Ontologies, Search engines, Specialized search, Structured search  Subscribe to our complete feed! [...] [...] The future of data marts Categories: Enterprise search, Ontologies, Search engines, Specialized search, Structured search  Subscribe to our complete feed! [...]

]]> By: Netezza on concurrency and workload management | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-131184 Netezza on concurrency and workload management | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:52:00 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-131184 [...] meeting. But while I was there I asked where Netezza stood on concurrency, workload management, and rapid data mart spin-out. Netezza’s claims in those regards turned out to be surprisingly [...] [...] meeting. But while I was there I asked where Netezza stood on concurrency, workload management, and rapid data mart spin-out. Netezza’s claims in those regards turned out to be surprisingly [...]

]]> By: The future of data marts by DBMS2 | Data mart, Business Intelligence, Data warehousing and Reporting http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-125573 The future of data marts by DBMS2 | Data mart, Business Intelligence, Data warehousing and Reporting Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:49:38 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-125573 [...] Read more Author: admin Categories: Data Governance, Data Mart Examples, Data mart Tags: Add new tag Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...] [...] Read more Author: admin Categories: Data Governance, Data Mart Examples, Data mart Tags: Add new tag Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...]

]]> By: Curt Monash http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-124977 Curt Monash Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:23:26 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-124977 Ben, I didn't think it was possible to stretch the definition of Web 2.0 to the breaking point, but you may have just accomplished it. ;) Best, CAM Ben,

I didn’t think it was possible to stretch the definition of Web 2.0 to the breaking point, but you may have just accomplished it. ;)

Best,

CAM

]]> By: Ben Werther http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-124934 Ben Werther Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:16:09 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-124934 We've been running Greenplum internally on EC2 for almost 2 years now, and use both EC2 and internal VMware pools for a range of QA and scale testing work. Making Greenplum run on EC2 is almost zero work -- we just haven't seen material demand from large enterprises wanting to put their production, mission critical data warehouses in the public cloud yet. There's no doubt it'll come over time, and we're supportive of the direction, but it just isn't here yet. Matt Aslett from the the451 group wrote a nice analysis on this topic (unfortunately only available through paid subscription), where he reinforced this point: "Enabling cloud-computing deployments is about more than simply offering a version of your product running on Amazon . . . Adoption of data warehousing on public clouds has so far been limited to proofs-of-concept evaluations and trials rather than production deployments, we believe, and Greenplum's focus on datacenter platforms could serve it well as enterprises look to private cloud architecture as a method of improving datacenter efficiencies before identifying workloads that could be migrated to public clouds." We're encouraged by folks like Aster, Vertica and others that find interest in public cloud offerings to serve the current market of Web 2.0 companies which is definitely a good use case. If anyone is seeing that large enterprises are ready today for meaningful adoption of public cloud services for data warehousing, we're ready to serve ;) We’ve been running Greenplum internally on EC2 for almost 2 years now, and use both EC2 and internal VMware pools for a range of QA and scale testing work.

Making Greenplum run on EC2 is almost zero work — we just haven’t seen material demand from large enterprises wanting to put their production, mission critical data warehouses in the public cloud yet. There’s no doubt it’ll come over time, and we’re supportive of the direction, but it just isn’t here yet.

Matt Aslett from the the451 group wrote a nice analysis on this topic (unfortunately only available through paid subscription), where he reinforced this point:

“Enabling cloud-computing deployments is about more than simply offering a version of your product running on Amazon . . . Adoption of data warehousing on public clouds has so far been limited to proofs-of-concept evaluations and trials rather than production deployments, we believe, and Greenplum’s focus on datacenter platforms could serve it well as enterprises look to private cloud architecture as a method of improving datacenter efficiencies before identifying workloads that could be migrated to public clouds.”

We’re encouraged by folks like Aster, Vertica and others that find interest in public cloud offerings to serve the current market of Web 2.0 companies which is definitely a good use case. If anyone is seeing that large enterprises are ready today for meaningful adoption of public cloud services for data warehousing, we’re ready to serve ;)

]]> By: Steve Wooledge http://www.dbms2.com/2009/06/08/the-future-of-data-marts/comment-page-1/#comment-124847 Steve Wooledge Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:29:50 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=805#comment-124847 I found this post from Daniel Abadi as a pretty balanced assessment of this news: http://dbmsmusings.blogspot.com/2009/06/quick-thoughts-on-greenplum-edc.html For example: "7. It appears that the only part of the EDC initiative that Greenplum's new version (3.3) has implemented is online data warehouse expansion (you can add a new node and the data warehouse/data mart can incorporate it into the parallel storage/processing without having to go down). All this means is that Greenplum has finally caught up to Aster Data along this dimension. I'd argue that since Aster Data also has a public cloud version and has customers using it there, they're actually farther along the EDC initiative than Greenplum is ..." Aster has multiple customer deployments on public clouds -- both Amazon and AppNexus. ShareThis is the largest DW-in-a-real-cloud deployment at Amazon (currently at 10 TB) and will be discussing their deployment at TDWI in San Diego in August at the Executive Summit: http://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/index.php?eventid=4983&tabid=929 I found this post from Daniel Abadi as a pretty balanced assessment of this news:
http://dbmsmusings.blogspot.com/2009/06/quick-thoughts-on-greenplum-edc.html

For example:
“7. It appears that the only part of the EDC initiative that Greenplum’s new version (3.3) has implemented is online data warehouse expansion (you can add a new node and the data warehouse/data mart can incorporate it into the parallel storage/processing without having to go down). All this means is that Greenplum has finally caught up to Aster Data along this dimension. I’d argue that since Aster Data also has a public cloud version and has customers using it there, they’re actually farther along the EDC initiative than Greenplum is …”

Aster has multiple customer deployments on public clouds — both Amazon and AppNexus. ShareThis is the largest DW-in-a-real-cloud deployment at Amazon (currently at 10 TB) and will be discussing their deployment at TDWI in San Diego in August at the Executive Summit:
http://www.eiseverywhere.com/ehome/index.php?eventid=4983&tabid=929

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