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	<title>Comments on: FlexStore and the rest of Vertica 3.5</title>
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		<title>By: 混合储存与压缩 &#124; Alex的个人Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-258365</link>
		<dc:creator>混合储存与压缩 &#124; Alex的个人Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-136549</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bill&quot;,

Unless you&#039;re personally acquainted with some or all of Mike Stonebraker, Dave DeWitt, Daniel Abadi, and Vertica execs -- and unless you&#039;ve talked about MapReduce with some of them -- you don&#039;t know what the hell you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bill&#8221;,</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re personally acquainted with some or all of Mike Stonebraker, Dave DeWitt, Daniel Abadi, and Vertica execs &#8212; and unless you&#8217;ve talked about MapReduce with some of them &#8212; you don&#8217;t know what the hell you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-136494</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For starters, Stonebraker != Abadi != Vertica. Beyond that, we’re talking about a bunch of very smart men and women, and if evidence leads them to tweak their opinions, then they’re open to doing so.

Yes Stonebreaker is entitled to change his opinion. The problem is that he spent a great deal of time and energy bashing, and invalidating the other opinions before he changed his own.  That makes him a hypocrit and you an apologist for his hypocrisy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters, Stonebraker != Abadi != Vertica. Beyond that, we’re talking about a bunch of very smart men and women, and if evidence leads them to tweak their opinions, then they’re open to doing so.</p>
<p>Yes Stonebreaker is entitled to change his opinion. The problem is that he spent a great deal of time and energy bashing, and invalidating the other opinions before he changed his own.  That makes him a hypocrit and you an apologist for his hypocrisy</p>
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		<title>By: Schubert Zhang</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-134871</link>
		<dc:creator>Schubert Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Column Grouping.
Bigtable&#039;s column family is a good abstraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Column Grouping.<br />
Bigtable&#8217;s column family is a good abstraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashwin Jayaprakash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133892</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashwin Jayaprakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very confusing. Daniel Abadi works on VoltDB. Isn&#039;t he also the same guy who is working on HadoopDB - MapReduce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very confusing. Daniel Abadi works on VoltDB. Isn&#8217;t he also the same guy who is working on HadoopDB &#8211; MapReduce?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashwin Jayaprakash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133891</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashwin Jayaprakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Balaji - That&#039;s true. Good that you pointed it out. They were so vocal against MapReduce and a month later they have this :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Balaji &#8211; That&#8217;s true. Good that you pointed it out. They were so vocal against MapReduce and a month later they have this <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Omer Trajman</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133809</link>
		<dc:creator>Omer Trajman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Balaji - we&#039;ve been getting lots of customer interest in MR and specifically hadoop.  It&#039;s a great community to be involved with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Balaji &#8211; we&#8217;ve been getting lots of customer interest in MR and specifically hadoop.  It&#8217;s a great community to be involved with.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133808</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For starters, Stonebraker != Abadi != Vertica. Beyond that, we&#039;re talking about a bunch of very smart men and women, and if evidence leads them to tweak their opinions, then they&#039;re open to doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters, Stonebraker != Abadi != Vertica. Beyond that, we&#8217;re talking about a bunch of very smart men and women, and if evidence leads them to tweak their opinions, then they&#8217;re open to doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: Balaji</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133802</link>
		<dc:creator>Balaji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I AM puzzled. It was stonebraker who critisized MapReduce a while ago and went feature by feature comparing Hadoop MapReduce implementation with DBMS ... and now comes full circle to adopt MapReduce into a DB ... WOW. Interesting. But in a way it is good because when MapReduce has been successfully implemented by Aster and Greenplum who are Row based, it was a matter of time before some column based jumped into using this trick. I expected ParAccel...but it is Vertica. Great job vertica team !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I AM puzzled. It was stonebraker who critisized MapReduce a while ago and went feature by feature comparing Hadoop MapReduce implementation with DBMS &#8230; and now comes full circle to adopt MapReduce into a DB &#8230; WOW. Interesting. But in a way it is good because when MapReduce has been successfully implemented by Aster and Greenplum who are Row based, it was a matter of time before some column based jumped into using this trick. I expected ParAccel&#8230;but it is Vertica. Great job vertica team !</p>
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		<title>By: Vertica&#8217;s version of MapReduce integration &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2009/08/04/flexstore-and-the-rest-of-vertica-35/#comment-133771</link>
		<dc:creator>Vertica&#8217;s version of MapReduce integration &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with Omer Trajman of Vertica Monday night about Vertica&#8217;s MapReduce integration, part of its Vertica 3.5 release. Highlights [...]</description>
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