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	<title>Comments on: Martin Kersten on issues in scientific data management</title>
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		<title>By: Jacek Becla on issues in scientific data management &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacek Becla on issues in scientific data management &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Martin Kersten did, Jacek Becla emailed a response to my post on issues in scientific data management. With his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jerome Pineau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome Pineau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, unless I&#039;m misinterpreting, that Martin is making the same point I was in my last blog on MR, namely that it addresses very specific domains (namely search, aka Google/Yahoo) primarily and that, being &quot;outside&quot; the engine, it is more of an OS component in its current form (file management/connectors in and out of the engine, Vertica-style) rather than an integral piece of the DBMS engine. I haven&#039;t read the referenced paper (yet) but this one here is fairly eye-opening IMHO: http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.pdf

Thanks for reposting this!
J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, unless I&#8217;m misinterpreting, that Martin is making the same point I was in my last blog on MR, namely that it addresses very specific domains (namely search, aka Google/Yahoo) primarily and that, being &#8220;outside&#8221; the engine, it is more of an OS component in its current form (file management/connectors in and out of the engine, Vertica-style) rather than an integral piece of the DBMS engine. I haven&#8217;t read the referenced paper (yet) but this one here is fairly eye-opening IMHO: <a href="http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://db.cs.yale.edu/hadoopdb/hadoopdb.pdf</a></p>
<p>Thanks for reposting this!<br />
J.</p>
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		<title>By: Issues in scientific data management &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>Issues in scientific data management &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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