Comments on: NoSQL Q and A http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/ Choices in data management and analysis Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:51:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-153100 Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:28:07 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-153100 [...] cheat sheets for some of the most widely used tools on the web http://ff.im/-cNt4b NoSQL Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Powered by Fresh [...] [...] cheat sheets for some of the most widely used tools on the web http://ff.im/-cNt4b NoSQL Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Powered by Fresh [...]

]]> By: Curt Monash http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152921 Curt Monash Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:52:52 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152921 Mike, April Fool's Day is still many months in the future. Mike,

April Fool’s Day is still many months in the future.

]]> By: Mike http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152919 Mike Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:44:53 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152919 Wow, you have far more patience than myself. I would have bailed out by number 7. Is this for real? Wow, you have far more patience than myself. I would have bailed out by number 7. Is this for real?

]]> By: Curt Monash http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152691 Curt Monash Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:43:36 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152691 Doug, I said in my first sentence what Neal is working on. Or, if you prefer, what he's trying to get people to do his work for him on. Doug,

I said in my first sentence what Neal is working on. Or, if you prefer, what he’s trying to get people to do his work for him on.

]]> By: Doug Little http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152685 Doug Little Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:21:41 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152685 Looks like someone is working on a book and looking for arguements. The questions don't make much sense, is this a bash against relational or something about Non-relational. If it's non-relational there are plenty of examples if people look at history. IBM's TPF, IMS, Adabas, the whole 4gl movement (sas, spss, natural, focus, model 204) and the newer olap databases (tm1, essbase, MS SSAS, etc). SQL and Relational db's are solving data management problems. My view on the current hadoop-map/reduce (yes, we're making investments), is about a bunch of junior java programmers discovering the need to query data and enthralled with their approach. yes, cheap disk and hardware can be used, but businesses don't really like to trust their data to gateway pc's. I can barely get engineering to buy SATA drives instead of SAS. So most of the performance limitations are policy and license issues not technology. Still I did see a demo of splunk and it was interesting. My question was. cool you can query 9 billion facts, but what are you going to do with 490m results. And within the relational world, we can do that without writing java code. bunch of noisemakers. let em get burned, I say. Looks like someone is working on a book and looking for arguements. The questions don’t make much sense, is this a bash against relational or something about Non-relational. If it’s non-relational there are plenty of examples if people look at history. IBM’s TPF, IMS, Adabas, the whole 4gl movement (sas, spss, natural, focus, model 204) and the newer olap databases (tm1, essbase, MS SSAS, etc). SQL and Relational db’s are solving data management problems.

My view on the current hadoop-map/reduce (yes, we’re making investments), is about a bunch of junior java programmers discovering the need to query data and enthralled with their approach.

yes, cheap disk and hardware can be used, but businesses don’t really like to trust their data to gateway pc’s. I can barely get engineering to buy SATA drives instead of SAS. So most of the performance limitations are policy and license issues not technology.

Still I did see a demo of splunk and it was interesting. My question was. cool you can query 9 billion facts, but what are you going to do with 490m results. And within the relational world, we can do that without writing java code.

bunch of noisemakers. let em get burned, I say.

]]> By: Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152506 Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:59:13 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152506 [...] cheat sheets for some of the most widely used tools on the web http://ff.im/-cNt4b NoSQL Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Wondering what the unprecedented change is RT @oracletechnet: In 2010 OTN will enter a phase of [...] [...] cheat sheets for some of the most widely used tools on the web http://ff.im/-cNt4b NoSQL Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Wondering what the unprecedented change is RT @oracletechnet: In 2010 OTN will enter a phase of [...]

]]> By: Nati Shalom http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152478 Nati Shalom Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:15:49 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152478 Recent research about disk failure that was published in the past years also indicate that school of thought behind the design of many of the existing databases is broken. Instead of relying that failure could be prevented through expesive hardware setup, NOSQL alternatives where built under the assumption that failure are inevitable and its better to cope with it then trying to prevent it from happening. You can seem more details about it on my recent post: Why Existing Databases (RAC) are So Breakable! http://natishalom.typepad.com/nati_shaloms_blog/2009/11/why-existing-databases-rac-are-so-breakable.html Recent research about disk failure that was published in the past years also indicate that school of thought behind the design of many of the existing databases is broken. Instead of relying that failure could be prevented through expesive hardware setup, NOSQL alternatives where built under the assumption that failure are inevitable and its better to cope with it then trying to prevent it from happening.

You can seem more details about it on my recent post: Why Existing Databases (RAC) are So Breakable! http://natishalom.typepad.com/nati_shaloms_blog/2009/11/why-existing-databases-rac-are-so-breakable.html

]]> By: Ivan Novick http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152470 Ivan Novick Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:02:44 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152470 Whenever I here an advertisement that specifically mentions a competitor I always think if they went to all the trouble to mention the competitor, the competitor must be better. NoSQL says nothing about a specific product. It focuses on SQL which clearly must have a lot to offer to a lot of people, otherwise the term NoSQL would not even exist. Cheers, Ivan Whenever I here an advertisement that specifically mentions a competitor I always think if they went to all the trouble to mention the competitor, the competitor must be better. NoSQL says nothing about a specific product. It focuses on SQL which clearly must have a lot to offer to a lot of people, otherwise the term NoSQL would not even exist.

Cheers,
Ivan

]]> By: The legit part of the NoSQL idea | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152427 The legit part of the NoSQL idea | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:07:54 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152427 [...] written some snarky things about the “NoSQL” concept – or at least the moniker. (Carl Olofson’s term “non-schematic [...] [...] written some snarky things about the “NoSQL” concept – or at least the moniker. (Carl Olofson’s term “non-schematic [...]

]]> By: Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog http://www.dbms2.com/2009/12/11/nosql-q-and-a/#comment-152419 Fresh From Twitter | Eddie Awad's Blog Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:14:57 +0000 http://www.dbms2.com/?p=1306#comment-152419 [...] Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Wondering what the unprecedented change is RT @oracletechnet: In 2010 OTN will enter a phase of [...] [...] Q and A http://bit.ly/84jBMI Wondering what the unprecedented change is RT @oracletechnet: In 2010 OTN will enter a phase of [...]

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