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		<title>By: Some thoughts on the announcement that IBM is buying Netezza &#124; DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-185341</link>
		<dc:creator>Some thoughts on the announcement that IBM is buying Netezza &#124; DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I hate it when my biggest clients get acquired, but it was pretty inevitable. Consolidation is happening. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I hate it when my biggest clients get acquired, but it was pretty inevitable. Consolidation is happening. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Where I&#8217;m at &#124; DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-185005</link>
		<dc:creator>Where I&#8217;m at &#124; DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the clients may change. After all, my biggest client is being acquired by IBM,  my 2nd-largest was acquired by EMC, a small one was acquired by SAP, and another small one folded and was scavenged by Teradata. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the clients may change. After all, my biggest client is being acquired by IBM,  my 2nd-largest was acquired by EMC, a small one was acquired by SAP, and another small one folded and was scavenged by Teradata. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Notes on EMC&#8217;s Greenplum subsidiary &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-179893</link>
		<dc:creator>Notes on EMC&#8217;s Greenplum subsidiary &#124; DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] both denies the concurrency problems I previously noted and also has a very credible story as to how it will eliminate them.  Seriously, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] both denies the concurrency problems I previously noted and also has a very credible story as to how it will eliminate them.  Seriously, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174844</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was inevitable that EMC took control of the database, Greenplum notwithstanding.  EMC plays excellent defense (in reference to Oracle above), but on offense there are few that have the strategic vision and competitive execution to match them.  Hats off to EMC and Greenplum for exposing the infrastructure storage play and for putting another multi-billion dollar market in play.  This market holds long term value that will operate and compete on very different attributes than the traditional BI/warehouse.
http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/06/sans-vs-das-in-mpp-data-warehousing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was inevitable that EMC took control of the database, Greenplum notwithstanding.  EMC plays excellent defense (in reference to Oracle above), but on offense there are few that have the strategic vision and competitive execution to match them.  Hats off to EMC and Greenplum for exposing the infrastructure storage play and for putting another multi-billion dollar market in play.  This market holds long term value that will operate and compete on very different attributes than the traditional BI/warehouse.<br />
<a href="http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/06/sans-vs-das-in-mpp-data-warehousing/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dbms2.com/2008/09/06/sans-vs-das-in-mpp-data-warehousing/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Furrier</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174492</link>
		<dc:creator>John Furrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you mention concurrency a key factor in big data and what I call &quot;little data&quot; architectures.  My angle is that this is about cloud data

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/07/06/big-data-clouds-are-here-emc-acquires-greenplum-move-counter-oracle/

The big problem facing growing enterprises is that they are flooded with more new types of data.  Application and new user data from mobile devices and applications, are changing the mandates from CEOs and CIO of medium and large enterprises.  

This new world of &quot;big data&quot; is putting pressure on the enterprise to develop both business and technical model innovation strategies like nothing seen before.  Hence the traction of the public and private cloud debate. 

Finally it&#039;s about exadata counter move against oracle and EMC looks at this like data domain but down at a different level with Greenplum.   Data Domain filled a product hole but Greenplum is a feature against competitors offerings.

good post and i&#039;m happy I found this blog..

good info thx

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you mention concurrency a key factor in big data and what I call &#8220;little data&#8221; architectures.  My angle is that this is about cloud data</p>
<p><a href="http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/07/06/big-data-clouds-are-here-emc-acquires-greenplum-move-counter-oracle/" rel="nofollow">http://siliconangle.com/blog/2010/07/06/big-data-clouds-are-here-emc-acquires-greenplum-move-counter-oracle/</a></p>
<p>The big problem facing growing enterprises is that they are flooded with more new types of data.  Application and new user data from mobile devices and applications, are changing the mandates from CEOs and CIO of medium and large enterprises.  </p>
<p>This new world of &#8220;big data&#8221; is putting pressure on the enterprise to develop both business and technical model innovation strategies like nothing seen before.  Hence the traction of the public and private cloud debate. </p>
<p>Finally it&#8217;s about exadata counter move against oracle and EMC looks at this like data domain but down at a different level with Greenplum.   Data Domain filled a product hole but Greenplum is a feature against competitors offerings.</p>
<p>good post and i&#8217;m happy I found this blog..</p>
<p>good info thx</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174365</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph,

What would be some examples of application storage-awareness that data management stacks couldn&#039;t handle properly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>What would be some examples of application storage-awareness that data management stacks couldn&#8217;t handle properly?</p>
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		<title>By: josephmartins</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174361</link>
		<dc:creator>josephmartins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Applications in general need to be more storage aware, and vice versa...not just databases. I&#039;ve been making that point with storage vendors for several years, not that any of them ever listen. It&#039;s like talking to rocks.

EMC has had several years now to completely revolutionize storage with application awareness. It hasn&#039;t really shown any genuine interest in it. To me this is just another product it wants to use to sell storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applications in general need to be more storage aware, and vice versa&#8230;not just databases. I&#8217;ve been making that point with storage vendors for several years, not that any of them ever listen. It&#8217;s like talking to rocks.</p>
<p>EMC has had several years now to completely revolutionize storage with application awareness. It hasn&#8217;t really shown any genuine interest in it. To me this is just another product it wants to use to sell storage.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Kopp</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174357</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Kopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curt- yes absolutely, I am back from holiday so I will work with AR and get you briefed, look forward to it as we have some key announcements coming up I want to pre-brief you on in July.

And yes we are very committed to having an appliance solution to compete in the market.  Today that solution is known as the Smart Analytics family which ranges across all platforms- Power, Linux on X and as of this month the mainframe.

Cheers,
Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curt- yes absolutely, I am back from holiday so I will work with AR and get you briefed, look forward to it as we have some key announcements coming up I want to pre-brief you on in July.</p>
<p>And yes we are very committed to having an appliance solution to compete in the market.  Today that solution is known as the Smart Analytics family which ranges across all platforms- Power, Linux on X and as of this month the mainframe.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Monash</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174356</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Monash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy,

Last I heard, IBM was a little less committed to an appliance or appliance-like strategy than most of the others. Of course, this could be an artifact of the fact that my briefings haven&#039;t concluded yet (um, are we scheduling more?). ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy,</p>
<p>Last I heard, IBM was a little less committed to an appliance or appliance-like strategy than most of the others. Of course, this could be an artifact of the fact that my briefings haven&#8217;t concluded yet (um, are we scheduling more?). <img src='http://www.dbms2.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Kopp</title>
		<link>http://www.dbms2.com/2010/07/06/emc-is-buying-greenplum/#comment-174355</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Kopp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Curt- just a reminder in your list of Warehouse vendors - forgetting anyone ? (hint hint)  

Also I would be very curious to hear what you think the market sweet spot is for the new combo of EMC/Greenplum.  EDW? Analytical Marts? How do you think they will be able to compete in the appliance space?

cheers,
Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Curt- just a reminder in your list of Warehouse vendors &#8211; forgetting anyone ? (hint hint)  </p>
<p>Also I would be very curious to hear what you think the market sweet spot is for the new combo of EMC/Greenplum.  EDW? Analytical Marts? How do you think they will be able to compete in the appliance space?</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
Nancy</p>
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