October 13, 2014

Context for Cloudera

Hadoop World/Strata is this week, so of course my clients at Cloudera will have a bunch of announcements. Without front-running those, I think it might be interesting to review the current state of the Cloudera product line. Details may be found on the Cloudera product comparison page. Examining those details helps, I think, with understanding where Cloudera does and doesn’t place sales and marketing focus, which given Cloudera’s Hadoop market stature is in my opinion an interesting thing to analyze.

So far as I can tell (and there may be some errors in this, as Cloudera is not always accurate in explaining the fine details):

In analyzing all this, I’m focused on two particular aspects:

Given its role as a highly influential yet still small “platform” vendor in a competitive open source market, Cloudera even more than most vendors faces the dilemma:

The Flex/Data Hub packaging fits great with that juggling act, because Cloudera — and hence also Cloudera salespeople — get paid exactly as much when customers pick 2 Flex options as when they use all 5-6. If you prefer Cassandra or MongoDB to HBase, Cloudera is fine with that. Ditto if you prefer CitusDB or Vertica or Teradata Hadapt to Impala. Thus Cloudera can avoid a lot of religious wars, even if it can’t entirely escape Hortonworks’ “More open source than thou” positioning.

Meanwhile, so far as I can tell, Cloudera currently bets on the “Enterprise Data Hub” as its core proposition, as evidenced by that term being baked into the name of Cloudera’s most comprehensive and expensive offering. Notes on the EDH start:

Cloudera’s long-term dream is clearly to make Hadoop the central data platform for an enterprise, while RDBMS fill more niche (or of course also legacy) roles. I don’t think that will ever happen, because I don’t think there really will be one central data platform in the future, any more than there has been in the past. As I wrote last year on appliances, clusters and clouds,

Ceteris paribus, fewer clusters are better than more of them. But all things are not equal, and it’s not reasonable to try to reduce your clusters to one — not even if that one is administered with splendid efficiency by low-cost workers, in a low-cost building, drawing low-cost electric power, in a low-cost part of the world.

and earlier in the same post

… these are not persuasive reasons to put everything on a SINGLE cluster or cloud. They could as easily lead you to have your VMware cluster and your Exadata rack and your Hadoop cluster and your NoSQL cluster and your object storage OpenStack cluster — among others — all while participating in several different public clouds as well.

One system is not going to be optimal for all computing purposes.

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2 Responses to “Context for Cloudera”

  1. Cloudera’s announcements this week | DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services on October 16th, 2014 11:05 am

    […] Hadoop World, Cloudera naturally put out a flurry of press releases. In anticipation, I put out a context-setting post last weekend. That said, the gist of the news seems to […]

  2. Notes on HBase | DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services on March 13th, 2015 6:26 pm

    […] Cloudera’s move to “zero/one/many” pricing, Cloudera salespeople have little incentive to push HBase hard to accounts other than […]

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