October 2, 2008
HP Neoview in the market to date
I evidently got HP’s attention by a recent post in which I questioned its stance on the relative positioning of the Exadata-based HP Oracle data warehouse appliance and the HP Neoview data warehouse appliance. A conversation with Greg Battas and John Miller (respectively CTO and CMO of HP’s BI group) quickly ensued. Mainly we talked about Neoview product goals and architecture. But before I get to that in a separate post, here are some Neoview market-presence highlights, so far as I’ve been able to figure them out:
- There are now some HP Neoview customers in production, including retailers Wal-Mart and Bon Ton; HP’s internal operations; and what sounds like 2-4 other outfits. (Note: As with other vendors, I find it hard to sort out who HP knows is in production, who it thinks is in production, and which customers’ names and/or details one I am allowed to use.)
- In particular, the main way to distribute and partition data is via the specification of a hash key (e.g., product code) and a clustering key (e.g., date). The other options are to put a table all on one disk, or to replicate a small table across all disks.
- HP says that most Neoview projects have been more or less EDW-like. What HP means by this is that Neoview is used for full or partial ports of enterprise data warehouses from some other database vendor; the data is largely if not entirely normalized; the database covers multiple subject areas; and so on.
- Usually the vendor being ported from is Teradata. Sometimes it’s Oracle. (Please note that the sample size here is surely small.)
- The number of recent new Neoview sales is at least 2. Total Neoview sales by now are probably somewhere in the teens.
- A couple of Neoview installations are 256-core machines. Those have around 150 terabytes of “usable data space”, which means they hold around 100 TB of data. (HP doesn’t do compression yet. And based on those figures, I guess they really mean it about not doing a lot of specialized indexing either.)
- Release 2.3 of Neoview was rolled into general availability in mid-June. Its emphases include operational BI and near-real-time analytics. Based on that numbering scheme, I doubt any copies of Release 1 of Neoview were ever sold (internal use is, of course, another matter). I don’t know whether the same goes for Release 2.0.
Categories: Data warehouse appliances, Data warehousing, HP and Neoview
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