Objectivity and Infinite Graph
Analysis of object-oriented DBMS vendor Objectivity and its products, especially graph database product Infinite Graph. Related subjects include:
This post is part of a series on managing and analyzing graph data. Posts to date include:
- Graph data model basics
- Relationship analytics definition (this post)
- Relationship analytics applications
- Analysis of large graphs
In late 2005, I encountered a company called Cogito that was using a graphical data manager to analyze relationships. They called this “relational analytics”, which I thought was a terrible name for something that they were trying to claim should NOT be done in a relational DBMS. On the spot, I coined relationship analytics as an alternative. A business relationship ensued, which included a short white paper. Cogito didn’t do so well, however, and for a while the term “relationship analytics” faltered too. But recently it’s made a bit of a comeback, having been adopted by Objectivity, Qlik Tech, Yarcdata and others.
“Relationship analytics” is not a perfect name, both because it’s longish and because it might over-connote a social-network focus. But then, no other term would be perfect either. So we might as well stick with it.
In that case, “relationship analytics” could use an actual definition, preferably one a little heftier than just:
Analytics on graphs.
|Categories: Cogito and 7 Degrees, Objectivity and Infinite Graph, QlikTech and QlikView, RDF and graphs, Yarcdata and Cray||7 Comments|
I talked with McObject yesterday. McObject has two product lines, both of which are something like in-memory DBMS — eXtremeDB, which is the main one, and Perst. McObject has been around since at least 2003, probably has no venture capital, and probably has a very low double-digit number of employees.*
*I could be wrong in those guesses; as small companies go, McObject is unusually prone to secrecy games.
As best I understand:
- eXtremeDB is something like an in-memory object-oriented DBMS, designed to be embeddable.
- However, much as with Objectivity and other old-school OODBMS, eXtremeDB winds up being more of a toolkit with which to build DBMS than a full DBMS.
- eXtremeDB has a few indexing schemes. The main one is good old B-trees. One customer wanted Patricia tries, so they’re in there. (Perhaps not coincidentally, solidDB relies on Patricia tries.) At least one wanted R-trees, so they’re in there too.
- eXtremeDB has long had the option of persistent logs.
- eXtremeDB newly has a hybrid memory-centric option, in which you can have more data in the database than fits into RAM.
- eXtremeDB newly has multi-master two-phase-commit clustering.
My guess three years ago that eXtremeDB might emerge as an alternative to solidDB seems to have been borne out. McObject CEO Steve Graves says that the core of McObject’s business is OEMs, in sectors such as telecom equipment and defense/aerospace. That’s exactly solidDB’s traditional market, except that solidDB got acquired by IBM and deemphasized it.
I’ve said before that if I were starting a SaaS effort — and it wasn’t just focused on analytics — I’d look at using a memory-centric OODBMS. Perhaps eXtremeDB is worth looking at in such scenarios.
|Categories: In-memory DBMS, McObject, Memory-centric data management, Object, Objectivity and Infinite Graph, solidDB, Telecommunications||11 Comments|
There seems to be a fair amount of confusion about object-oriented database management systems (OODBMS). Let’s start with a working definition:
An object-oriented database management system (OODBMS, but sometimes just called “object database”) is a DBMS that stores data in a logical model that is closely aligned with an application program’s object model. Of course, an OODBMS will have a physical data model optimized for the kinds of logical data model it expects.
If you’re guessing from that definition that there can be difficulties drawing boundaries between the application, the application programming language, the data manipulation language, and/or the DBMS — you’re right. Those difficulties have been a big factor in relegating OODBMS to being a relatively niche technology to date.
Examples of what I would call OODBMS include: Read more
|Categories: Cache, In-memory DBMS, Intersystems and Cache', Memory-centric data management, Objectivity and Infinite Graph, OLTP, Software as a Service (SaaS), Starcounter||20 Comments|
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Most of what I get paid for is in some form or other consulting. (The same would be true for many other analysts.) And so I can be a bit stingy with my advice toward non-clients. But my non-clients are a distinguished and powerful group, including in their number Oracle, IBM, Microsoft, and most of the BI vendors. So here’s a bit of advice for them too.
Oracle. On the plus side, you guys have been making progress against your reputation for untruthfulness. Oh, I’ve dinged you for some past slip-ups, but on the whole they’ve been no worse than other vendors.’ But recently you pulled a doozy. The analyst reports section of your website fails to distinguish between unsponsored and sponsored work.* That is a horrible ethical stumble. Fix it fast. Then put processes in place to ensure nothing that dishonest happens again for a good long time.
*Merv Adrian’s “report” listed high on that page is actually a sponsored white paper. That Merv himself screwed up by not labeling it clearly as such in no way exonerates Oracle. Besides, I’m sure Merv won’t soon repeat the error — but for Oracle, this represents a whole pattern of behavior.
Oracle. And while I’m at it, outright dishonesty isn’t your only unnecessary credibility problem. You’re also playing too many games in analyst relations.
HP. Neoview will never succeed. Admit it to yourselves. Go buy something that can. Read more
|Categories: Actian and Ingres, Business intelligence, Data warehouse appliances, Data warehousing, Exadata, HP and Neoview, Information Builders, Kalido, MarkLogic, NoSQL, Objectivity and Infinite Graph, Oracle, SenSage, Tableau Software||46 Comments|
I chatted Wednesday night with Darren Wood, the Australia-based lead developer of Objectivity’s Infinite Graph database product. Background includes:
- Objectivity is a profitable, decades-old object-oriented DBMS vendor with about 50 employees.
- Like some other object-oriented DBMS of its generation, Objectivity is as much a toolkit for building DBMS as it is a real finished DBMS product. Objectivity sales are typically for custom deals, where Objectivity helps with the programming.
- The way Objectivity works is basically:
- You manage objects in memory, in the format of your choice.
- Objectivity bangs them to disk, across a network.
- Objectivity manages the (distributed) pointers to the objects.
- You can, if you choose, hard code exactly which objects are banged to which node.
- Objectivity’s DML for reading data is very different from Objectivity’s DML for writing data. (I think the latter is more like the program code itself, while the former is more like regular DML.)
- The point of Objectivity is not so much to have fast I/O. Rather, it is to minimize the CPU cost of getting the data that comes across the wire into useful form.
- Darren got the idea of putting a generic graph DBMS front-end on Objectivity while doing a relationship analytics project for an Australian intelligence agency.
- Darren redoubled his efforts to sell the project internally at Objectivity after reading what I wrote about relationship analytics back in 2006 or so.
- There is now a 5 or so person team developing Infinite Graph.
- Infinite Graph is just now going out to beta test.
Infinite Graph is an API or language binding on top of Objectivity that:
- Hides a lot of Objectivity’s complexity.
- Is suitable for graph/relationship analytics.
|Categories: Analytic technologies, Object, Objectivity and Infinite Graph, RDF and graphs, Surveillance and privacy||9 Comments|
Just as Martin Kersten did, Jacek Becla emailed a response to my post on issues in scientific data management. With his permission, I’ve lightly edited his email too, and am posting it below, with some interspersed comments of my own. Read more