October 19, 2007

Gartner 2007 Magic Quadrant for Data Warehouse Database Management Systems

February, 2011 edit: I’ve now commented on Gartner’s 2010 Data Warehouse Database Management System Magic Quadrant as well.

It’s early autumn, the leaves are turning in New England, and Gartner has issued another Magic Quadrant for data warehouse DBMS(Edit: As of January, 2009, that link is dead but this one works.) The big winners vs. last year are Greenplum and, secondarily, Sybase. Teradata continues to lead. Oracle has also leapfrogged IBM, and there are various other minor adjustments as well, among repeat mentionees Netezza, DATAllegro, Sand, Kognitio, and MySQL. HP isn’t on the radar yet; ditto Vertica.

I’m not a big fan of Gartner Magic Quadrants, but I thought I’d share even so.

Edit: For more on the data warehouse appliance part of the market, please see this December, 2007 post on data warehouse appliance fact and fiction.

Comments

7 Responses to “Gartner 2007 Magic Quadrant for Data Warehouse Database Management Systems”

  1. 2007 Magic Quadrant for Data Warehouse on October 28th, 2007 2:58 pm

    [...] Gartner released the updated quadrant for DW DBMS software and appliances. DATAllegro seems too far below Netezza in ability to execute. DATAllegro has large, proven installations. Their recent releases run on Dell blades with EMC storage instead of the customized FPGAs of Netezza. And how is Greenplum rated higher than DATAllego? (via DBMS2) [...]

  2. Bofa on October 30th, 2007 3:21 pm

    DATAllegro runs on Dell 2950s…not blades. They’re also (still) a private company w/o visibility into their financials. Regardless if they grew 300%+, Netezza has 100+ customers and can back up their claims with public data. With Oracle announcing a near duplicate solution with Dell/EMC, I’m starting to wonder what DATAllegro brings to the party.

    As for Greenplum, maybe it’s due to their Sun partnership. No idea beyond that.

  3. Curt Monash on October 30th, 2007 5:18 pm

    No way is Oracle a near-duplicate solution to DATAllegro on similar hardware. Oracle is SMP and does random reads; DATAllegro is MPP and does streaming reads.

    Greenplum is MPP as well.

    CAM

  4. Stuart Frost on November 2nd, 2007 7:15 pm

    Curt,

    You’re absolutely right.

    If Oracle could compete with us just by being installed on Dell servers and EMC storage, we would have a problem. The fact is they can’t. It’s going to take much more than a “reference architecture” to allow Oracle to scale and offer decent performance on more than 20TB.

    Our solution is a true shared nothing MPP architecture that is much more similar to Teradata than Oracle (except that we’re much cheaper and a lot faster than TD). The hardware platform is irrelevant from that perspective.

    Stuart Frost
    CEO DATAllegro

  5. Stuart Frost on November 2nd, 2007 7:25 pm

    On the Gartner MQ:

    I’m a complete loss to understand why Greenplum is positioned better than us on the MQ. We clearly have a much stronger vision (scaling, encryption, grid, concurrency, etc.) and ability to execute on large installations. GP has their relationship with Sun, but that’s more than matched by our EMC, Dell and Bull relationships. Also, Sun has just announced a relationship with Paraccel, so where does that leave GP?

    Gartner also commented that we are growing slower than our competitors. We recently announced growth of over 300% for last fiscal and that growth rate looks set to continue this fiscal. Netezza is around 60% and Teradata around 10%. I don’t know where GP is on this metric, but it’s hard to beleive they are seeing much more than 100% growth. Gartner was fully aware of all of these figures and still published the comment!

    I also think we’re much closer to NZ than the MQ would indicate. In fact, I would say that we have a stronger vision, but it’s hard to argue that they aren’t ahead of us on ability to execute – just not as far as Gartner seems to think.

    Oh well, hopefully next year’s MQ will be more in line with the way the rest of the market thinks.

    Stuart
    CEO DATAllegro

  6. Curt Monash on November 2nd, 2007 7:41 pm

    Stuart,

    I suspect much of the problem lies in three areas. First, it’s very hard for independent observers to discover successful DATAllegro installations. You keep them a deep, dark secret, and third parties don’t happen to stumble across them much.

    Second, I get the feeling competitors are feeling a little more heat from Sun and perhaps even HP than they are from your team.

    Third, most of the market activity is at sites somewhat smaller than those where you’re highly competitive.

    In response, I’d encourage you to disclose more customer information. I think you’ve reached the end of the line for secrecy in that regard, just as Netezza can’t really keep its product directions under wraps any more.

    Best,

    CAM

  7. Gartner’s 2008 data warehouse database management system Magic Quadrant is out | DBMS2 -- DataBase Management System Services on January 12th, 2009 10:22 am

    [...] working links to the 2008 Gartner Data Warehouse Database Management System MQ.  My posts on the 2007 and 2006 MQs have also been updated with working [...]

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