September 30, 2011

Oracle NoSQL is unlikely to be a big deal

Alex Williams noticed that there will be a NoSQL session at Oracle OpenWorld next week, and is wondering whether this will be a big deal. I think it won’t be.

There really are three major points to NoSQL.

Oracle can address the latter two points as aggressively as it wishes via MySQL. It so happens I would generally recommend MySQL enhanced by dbShards, Schooner, and/or dbShards/Schooner, rather than Oracle-only MySQL … but that’s a detail. In some form or other, Oracle’s MySQL is a huge player in the scale-out, open source, short-request database management market.

So that leaves us with dynamic schemas. Oracle has at least four different sets of technology in that area:

If Oracle is now refreshing and rebranding one or more of these as “NoSQL”, there’s no reason to view that as a big deal at all.

*That’s Mike Olson’s former company, if you’re keeping score at home.

Comments

13 Responses to “Oracle NoSQL is unlikely to be a big deal”

  1. Chris on October 1st, 2011 5:09 am

    I think you are missing a few points here. NoSQL is not replacement for rdbms. It’s to fill the gaps after rdbms. NoSQL is closer to developers and they will (almost) always choose solution which is open and cheap (!). It’s about hosting – companies are migrating from expensive in premises solution to hosted solution and then please show me amongst biggest hosting companies who uses Oracle ? NoSQL matters to Oracle very much as Oracle may have spotted they are like dinosaur: big, slow with lots of … relations that slow them down even more, still powerful though :)

  2. Curt Monash on October 1st, 2011 5:26 am

    Chris,

    Given your view of the reasons to adopt NoSQL — why would Oracle ever offer a NoSQL product NoSQL adopters would choose to adopt?

  3. Chris on October 1st, 2011 2:48 pm

    For example to have influence on nosql “standard” whatever it’s going to be as nosql changes they way how application are design and written. This shift at some point may reach their legacy markets. Remember that change comes from the bottom not from the top.

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  6. rao yendluri on October 8th, 2011 11:23 am

    Any pricing details on this? I understand they have a opensource offering. Thanks, ..rao

  7. Curt Monash on October 8th, 2011 9:53 pm

    Nothing jumps to mind on pricing, licensing, etc.

    Anyhow, I see Oracle NoSQL more as a technology to put out press releases and marketing collateral about than as something people will actually use.

  8. Curt Monash on October 9th, 2011 1:53 pm

    Daniel Abadi now has a lot more information on Oracle’s NoSQL offering: http://dbmsmusings.blogspot.com/2011/10/overview-of-oracle-nosql-database.html

    The comments really add to the thread, as they often do on this blog as well.

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  12. Chris Bird on February 11th, 2013 4:41 pm

    I have been thinking about a model for XML data management that uses the relational underpinnings for “search data” (whatever that means). and returns the XML structured data natively as it was inserted. Then use stylesheets to perform the projections over the data prior to returning it. So you get the clever query optimization behavior from the “metadata” together with the flexibility of the XML structured data on the retrieval side. It seems like an interesting compromise (especially since the data that I am managing can’t be converted easily into MongoDB because the resultant documents are too big).I can’t see any obvious downsides just yet, so would be interested in your thoughts. Oh, and the reason the post is on this thread is that my client is looking at doing this using Oracle RAC with the XML capabilities. Up until that moment, I was reasonably confident, now I am less sure. Thoughts?
    Thanks

  13. Curt Monash on February 11th, 2013 7:10 pm

    Not totally sure what you’re suggesting here, Chris. Why isn’t the obvious choice MarkLogic 6?

    Best,

    CAM

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