February 6, 2012

Comments on the 2012 Forrester Wave: Enterprise Hadoop Solutions

Forrester has released its Q1 2012 Forrester Wave: Enterprise Hadoop Solutions. (Googling turns up a direct link, but in case that doesn’t prove stable, here also is a registration-required link from IBM’s Conor O’Mahony.) My comments include:

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11 Responses to “Comments on the 2012 Forrester Wave: Enterprise Hadoop Solutions”

  1. Joe on February 6th, 2012 8:30 am

    Curt,
    It looks like EMC has recently changed strategy around their “Greenplum HD”.

    HD is now a variant of ASF Hadoop, of both the “community” and “enterprise” variety (it was before based on MapR M3/5). Their MapR offering is now referred to as “Greenplum MR”.

    This change in strategy seems to coincide with the release of their Isilon connectors (which use ASF Hadoop, as well). Not good signs for MapR as a company, if their biggest strategic partner has built directly competitive offerings.

    I agree that some other portions of the Forrester report are confusing – thanks for parsing this stuff for us.

  2. Derrick on February 6th, 2012 10:54 am

    Couldn’t agree more. I was a little baffled when I first saw the report , too. I would hate to be HStreaming, which ends up looking like a poor product despite that it aims to solve an entirely different problem than what anyone else on the list does.

  3. unholyguy on February 6th, 2012 1:25 pm

    The overall ranking is also 37.5% based on the single line item “Strategic Direction” which seems to be entirely subjective.

    pretty sloppy work honestly, expect better of Forrester

  4. What it really means when someone says ‘Hadoop’ — Cloud Computing News on February 6th, 2012 3:12 pm

    [...] that didn’t like how their products were assessed, and database industry analyst Curt Monash says the report “compares apples, peaches, almonds, and peanuts.” I thought the same thing when I saw a copy of the report last week. They all focus on Hadoop, but [...]

  5. Amandeep on February 6th, 2012 4:44 pm

    In my opinion, it is also unfair to compair Hadoop distributions with hosted services/products like the various AWS offerings.

    The report also gives 5/5 to Amazon for professional services. From what I understand. that’s not something they offer at all! Amazon offers a hosted product (Elastic MapReduce) and support backing the product.

  6. unholyguy on February 6th, 2012 5:37 pm

    That is awesome. Based on some of my PS experiences I guess a case could be made…

    “The report also gives 5/5 to Amazon for professional services. From what I understand. that’s not something they offer at all! “

  7. Hadoop-related market categorization : DBMS 2 : DataBase Management System Services on February 7th, 2012 1:49 am

    [...] wasn’t the only one to be dubious about Forrester Research’s Hadoop taxonomy (or lack thereof). GigaOm’s Derrick Harris was as well, and offered a much superior approach [...]

  8. Goutam Ghosh on February 8th, 2012 11:58 am

    You are absolutely correct. I am very much aware of Hadoop and personally implemented while doing technology selection process for large financial company. Forrester forgot to mention Oracle’s Bigdata offering which is based on Clouder’s Hadoop and MapR. It provides the capability of complete integration out of the box with Infiniband capability. There are things every client looks for it and those are:
    1. Integrated Stack.
    2. Time to Market.
    3. Risk Mitigation.
    Oracle provides all of them along with it’s database strong market hold.

  9. Curt Monash on February 8th, 2012 1:11 pm

    Oracle is offering something based on MapR? Are you sure? I haven’t heard of that, and if Google is to be believed, neither have many other people.

  10. antonio romero on February 8th, 2012 3:17 pm

    Curt,

    I believe Goutam may have mis-spoken, conflating the new Oracle R Enterprise analytics offering from Oracle with MapR. Just a guess, but… too many obscure names/acronyms floating around out there.

  11. Comparing Elephants and Kettles at Open Source Integration Software Blog - Talend on February 14th, 2012 12:31 pm

    [...] As far as the technical accuracy of the Wave is concerned, Curt Monash did a pretty thorough job of pointing out a number of technical aspects, and Derrick Harris from GigaOM offered an interesting taxonomy of Hadoop – saving me the [...]

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