October 5, 2014

Streaming for Hadoop

The genesis of this post is that:

Of course, we should hardly assume that what the Hadoop distro vendors favor will be the be-all and end-all of streaming. But they are likely to at least be influential players in the area.

In the parts of the problem that Cloudera emphasizes, the main tasks that need to be addressed are:

I guess there’s also a step of receiving data out of the plumbing system. Cloudera and I glossed over that aspect when we talked, but I’ll say:

Cloudera has not yet decided whether to make Kafka part of CDH (which stands for Cloudera Distribution yada yada Hadoop). Considerations in that probably include:

I still find it bizarre that a messaging system be named after an author famous for writing about depressingly inescapable situations. Also, I wish that:

Highlights from the Storm vs. Spark Streaming vs. Samza part of my discussion with Cloudera include:

Also, Spark Streaming has a major advantage over bare Storm in whether you have to manually configure your topology, but I wasn’t clear as to how far Trident closes that particular gap.

Cloudera and I didn’t particularly talk about data-consuming technologies such as BI, predictive analytics, or analytic applications, but we did review use cases a bit. Nothing too surprising jumped out. Indeed, the discussion reminded me of a 2007 list I did of applications — other than extreme low-latency ones — for CEP (Complex Event Processing).

In general, candidate application areas for streaming-to-Hadoop match those that involve large volumes of machine-generated data.

Edit: Shortly after I posted this, Storm creator Nathan Marz put up a detailed and optimistic post about the history and state of Storm.

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9 Responses to “Streaming for Hadoop”

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